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Old May 23, 2007 | 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Cheap Elite

Most likely because its more convenient and cheaper for consumers to take Amtrak or New Jersey transit to Philly than take a plane.

That route was probably expense to run and not profitable.
Not to mention anything that can be done to reduce congestion at Newark is important. Why further clog your airspace with little planes to Philadelphia when you can partner with Amtrak and build a station at Newark Airport. Smart move on Continental's part there.

I was waiting for somebody to say, "why would Continental canibalize their Newark hub" with flights at Atlantic City, Trenton, and elsewhere. Glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking about that. Continental wants to drive traffic to Newark and strengthen the hub, not weaken it.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 9:02 pm
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I was waiting for somebody to say, "why would Continental canibalize their Newark hub" with flights at Atlantic City, Trenton, and elsewhere. Glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking about that. Continental wants to drive traffic to Newark and strengthen the hub, not weaken it.
that someone was me.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 6:26 am
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Originally Posted by fly co to see the yanks
that someone was me.
Yes, you and I must have been awake that day in Business School class.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 6:29 am
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Old May 24, 2007 | 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by New York City Flyer
Not to mention anything that can be done to reduce congestion at Newark is important. Why further clog your airspace with little planes to Philadelphia when you can partner with Amtrak and build a station at Newark Airport. Smart move on Continental's part there.

I was waiting for somebody to say, "why would Continental canibalize their Newark hub" with flights at Atlantic City, Trenton, and elsewhere. Glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking about that. Continental wants to drive traffic to Newark and strengthen the hub, not weaken it.
Also, as someone else stated it makes more sense to have connections to Cleveland for those who don't want to drive as Newark and deal with potential delays let alone the drive to Newark.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by PhillyPhlyer40
Wonder WHY they got rid of PHL-EWR
I'm sure that the abysmal on-time performance had something to do with it. I was ticketed on CO2344 a few times and never actually took it due to delays and cancellations. When things got bad at EWR that was one of the first flights to get canceled. Unfortunately, many of the pax with BF connections to Europe were stuck for a day as by the time they were at PHL it was too late to get onto Amtrak and make it to EWR for their flights.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by New York City Flyer
Yes, you and I must have been awake that day in Business School class.
A few RJs flying out of ACY and TNN is not really canabalizing. it would not even put a dent in CO huge EWR operation

Thats why best case scenario CO can connect a few people who want an easy to use airport thru CLE, strengthen that hub, and also fill those seats people would have taken out of EWR. There is a potential to make even more money here but i think it would just be a nice gesture for CO to offer this as an alternateto EWRs irritating and often delays. DL offering service though to both makes it alot less likely for the service to ever come back or start
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Old May 24, 2007 | 12:47 pm
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I think an expansion of US Helicopter from ACY and/or Trenton to the Wall Street Heliport to feed the morning and evening departures to both EWR and JFK.

The service could be cross subsidized by New Yorkers going to the Borgata. Plus give flexability of access to JFK and EWR with a quick connect at Wall Street.

It will never happen but it's an idea.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 12:56 pm
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Another central NJ vote for ACY (not that it matters). Depending on cost, ACY might provide a phl alternative... some might pay a premium vs. PHL where CO competes with WN.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 1:31 pm
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Originally Posted by airzim
I think an expansion of US Helicopter from ACY and/or Trenton to the Wall Street Heliport to feed the morning and evening departures to both EWR and JFK.

The service could be cross subsidized by New Yorkers going to the Borgata. Plus give flexability of access to JFK and EWR with a quick connect at Wall Street.

It will never happen but it's an idea.

I was just thinking the same thing a couple of weeks ago while I was stuck in traffic driving back from AC to Northern NJ. I think a NYC->AC helicopter would do well. Didn't Trump have one for a while?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by mbreuer
Another central NJ vote for ACY (not that it matters). Depending on cost, ACY might provide a phl alternative... some might pay a premium vs. PHL where CO competes with WN.
Don't you mean US Air? Or am I missing something?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Cheap Elite
Don't you mean US Air? Or am I missing something?
With everything going on with US Airways right now, every week its another "hiccup," this week its the pilot seniority list, I don't think anybody really thinks of US as a long-term major competitor, I think Southwest is the bigger concern / threat. Sure, US can sell some cheap fares, but will the high-yield pax continue to put up with another new inconvenience every week, for how long?
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