I deleted my inappropriate message.

[This message has been edited by wonderland60069 (edited 12-14-2000).]

I AGREE!

The other thread that started this: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000546.html

[This message has been edited by cigarman (edited 11-21-2000).]

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[This message has been edited by cigarman (edited 11-21-2000).]

Wow there are some very sick puppies on the loose this morning.

May I suggest the post of 8.33am, 11/21 on the thread below be read below in conjunction with these words of wisdom posted above. It might make some sense then. Possibly. Phew.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000546.html




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~ Glen ~

OZ, must you attack and drag everyone in the gutter. Polite discorse? "sick puppies"? Why is anyone "sick" because they disagree with dragging up year old posts by DOC. Or is it disagreeing with you that makes them "sick"?
Would you PLEASE go back to the UA forum. It is the airline you fly! And by the way...the 8:33 post by you...is wrong. But,I guess that really doesn't matter does it?

Hi Cigarman.

Hey, I was being entirely civil, to you personally in the posts I made, and civil, sensible, and serious in the suggestion put forward for discussion about the POTENTIAL for It'l upgrades on CO. All my posts before the barrage of madness 7.45am-7.59am jamming this entire board with silly nonsense, had been quite proper and constructive I think any reasonable person will agree. 26 bizarre posts was what the "un-civil" part was IMHO, and as I was still on this board, I commented on it. Seeing you asked me on two threads to reflect upon that post as you were not happy with it, I have now thought on that, although I frankly would have preferred the matter to rest where it was.

I have absolutely no idea who wonderland60069 is (and nor do I care) other than he/she is new, has no email address, or other contact data showing, and has a toxic disposition based on his/her few posts today. Man for a new poster, that person is QUICK - see table below - you must admire his/her superb board skills for a total newbie. Posting new threads, mastering smileys of all kinds in vertical alignment, and taking only seconds each time. A true genius.

Hell, from 7.45am to 7.49am this wonderland in 4 minutes posted TEN times on 10 threads, the same puerile message, and that included initiating a brand new thread, typing that new message, naming the thread, and sending it. A real talent. And there was not a soul around to help post immediately after him/her each and every time, except you. And you did so also with commendable speed.

The thing is about the CO board is that it has long periods of inactivity, so tracking visitors is very simple. There were for instance, no posts on this board between 7.37 pm last night and your first post this morning at 7.10 am, which is about 12 hours. (Other than the few posts last night on the "Jon Toner" thread that caused this mess to erupt.)

So I humbly apologise if you are not wonderland and you felt I somehow inferred it were you. Sick Puppies is plural I think? (Or perhaps the American plural is Puppiez these days?) In any case, let me humbly retract any possible inference by me that YOU made 26 silly posts with no point to them, and amend that to half that or just THIRTEEN silly posts, in threads they did not belong in, with no point to them. That I trust is a figure you DO agree with and do not dispute?

This from the guy who sympathised only minutes earlier on board with Camera Guy and others for the time they would need to spend with their slow connections struggling to download just ONE harmless post you personally were not happy with. I guess your response is like getting angry at seeing a guy speeding on the Interstate, and driving 20 mph faster just to prove you are annoyed?

And I did not realise visiting this CO board was now restricted to certain people? My apologies. Hey .... you post when you feel like it on the UA board, and I can never recall anyone there reading that rule out to you? Strange isn't it? Must be one of those new regulations just out?

Just to amuse myself I logged all your posts and all wonderland's posts this morning in a side by side table. Boy, for 2 different people you sure posted a lot on the same threads. And all with minutes of each other. And yet amazingly, you were the only other poster on this board for ages, and right through this entire period.

C = Cigarman, and W = Wonderland:


http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000546.html (Jon Toner)
C - 7.10am C - 7.46am C - 7.52 am C - 8.52am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/001546.html (Positive Space)
C - 7.28am C - 7.39am C - 8.10am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000003.html
Wonderland (= W) - 7.45am Cigarman (= C) C - 7.59am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000002.html
W - 7.46am C -7.48am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000010.html
W - 7.47am C - 7.56am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000004.html
W - 7.47am C - 7.57am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000001.html
W - 7.47am C - 7.58am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000009.html
W - 7.47am C - 7.57am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000007.html
W - 7.46am C - 7.58am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000005.html
W - 7.48am C - 7.54am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/000000.html
W - 7.48am C - 7.56am
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/001558.html (DOC)
W - 7.49am C - 7.53

All in all pretty pointless, and I suggest we all let the incident fade from memory.

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[This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 11-21-2000).]

OZ, I posted in TWO forums responding to your two posts in those forums. I see you ignored the sick part and went after my grammer instead. I never pretended to be highly educated. I will concede any argument on that subject. For someone who wants this to die...do you think the chart helps? I'm done with you OZ. Too Much.

Dean ... I really do apologise here. Please show me where I went for your spelling or grammar above?? I did not, not would I. I have NEVER on this board criticised anyone's spelling or grammar. If you are talking about the "puppies" - that point was made to indicate more than ONE person was noted in my post and for no other reason. And the zzzz thing is a personal bugbear I have with ALL butchered "American" spelling and was not aimed at you in the slightest ... sorry if you somehow took it that way. I posted this on zzzzzz spelling several hours before you woke up:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/001304.html


I did the chart for my own use initially to see if there was any posting overlap. Was there? I don't see it.



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~ Glen ~

It was the puppies and the american comment. You often talk about american grammer in a somewhat insulting way in your post. But, lets let it go. Apology accepted. And my apology in return.

Oz and Cigarman -
I'm glad you buried the hatchet. I, for one, learned valuable information from both of you at different times on this board.

Thanks for being around!
-levi

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Travel is a powerful antidote to contemporary American arrogance.

Is the cameraguy now disguised as alice in wonderland ?
You yahoos can talk all you want.But I remember all the very helpful advice doc gave for last year's 1k oneworld bonus.
When these complainers can make a likewise positive contribution to FT then, they may have a leg to stand on.
Until, such nonsense should go the way of milesgod69 from earlier this summer.
hats off to one hell of a person....doc!

seeyou,

I would have e-mailed you, but you have no address in your profile.

If you are insinuating that I am Wonderland YOU ARE WRONG! I stand behind my contributions here and do not need to hide behind any alias. I believe an apology is in order.

As far as doc "contributions" are concerned, Maybe he made some to the 1K oneword bonus. But, since he does not actually travel much, I doubt it. Here in the CO forum, he continues to post away WITHOUT making any worthwhile contributions.

My goodness, you are all just wasting bandwith.

You are all fined 1 mile!

Jeeze oz, don't your fingers ever get sore?

Tute .... I have 243 orphan NW miles - they are yours. Consider me fined, and pre-paid up in advance.

Cigarman, extremely pleased you accepted my apology on the above, as there was nothing at all in it. I guess some of you guys know deep down if I really had MEANT to make a pointed personal remark there world be absolutely no doubting its wording or meaning! That sort of thing is in the past with me, and all I was hoping to do in all this was float the idea of something that MIGHT be useful to CO fliers.

I am sure we will disagree on airline policies, routes, promotions etc in the future, and hell may even agree on many things too. However the way you or anyone else on FT expresses those thoughts will never be part of my response, nor has it even been. (And I need a mailing address for you too please - I had something to pass on to you in DUS, and I forgot to bring it to the GoosenDinner. )

EastWest .. thank you. Yes, at the end of the day all of us here contribute something to the overall entity that is FT. Whether it be me, you, Cigarman, Doc, or Arturo, etc we all add things, and all may choose to read them or ignore them.

There are heaps of things I think are utter cr*p on FT and I ignore them, and heaps of things that have in my 5 months here saved me $40,000-$50,000 I suppose, (like now owning 14 UA "Systemwides" for starters!) so it is a "filtering" technique needed from us all.

If this were North Korea, none of our posts, good or bad, would be possible, and I sure am thankful we are able to have such personal freedom, and openness of expression.

(Or did Bill Gates decide that now is exprezzion?)


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[This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 11-21-2000).]