EWR-SFO EUA question
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No, at T-24 there about 10 F seats open and I was #1 on the list. The "customers upgraded into first" number didn't change, and neither did my spot on the list (eventually slipped to 2), but the number of open F seats slowly dwindled. There was 1 battlefield. This is only a hunch, but I suspect that most of where the F seats went between T-24 and T-2 were to "buy up to Fs"
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2 minutes till check in and now they opened up mile upgrade and M-UP upgrade availability 
EDIT: ok so it was $208 to buy up from my H to first class (M-up) and now in the checkin process I am getting a $49 confirmed upgrade to 1st class option. It is so tempting but with 4 seats I really just want to see what happens so going to decline and hope for my free upgrade. Wish me luck.

EDIT: ok so it was $208 to buy up from my H to first class (M-up) and now in the checkin process I am getting a $49 confirmed upgrade to 1st class option. It is so tempting but with 4 seats I really just want to see what happens so going to decline and hope for my free upgrade. Wish me luck.
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2 minutes till check in and now they opened up mile upgrade and M-UP upgrade availability 
EDIT: ok so it was $208 to buy up from my H to first class (M-up) and now in the checkin process I am getting a $49 confirmed upgrade to 1st class option. It is so tempting but with 4 seats I really just want to see what happens so going to decline and hope for my free upgrade. Wish me luck.

EDIT: ok so it was $208 to buy up from my H to first class (M-up) and now in the checkin process I am getting a $49 confirmed upgrade to 1st class option. It is so tempting but with 4 seats I really just want to see what happens so going to decline and hope for my free upgrade. Wish me luck.
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I agree but this being only my 2nd CO trip of the year and only $49 for EWR-SFO.....
I have to say that with reading some of the threads regarding the fare difference for F versus this reduced buy-up I think there is still some information missing or maybe I just don't understand it correctly or haven't read the most recent threads.
What I'm not clear about is when it got to 19/20 full with me being #1 on the UG list and already ~10 people behind me I still had the option for the $49 upgrade. So at this point I have no problem with anyone paying the fare difference from their original ticket to get into F whatever that amount is. What I would like to know is since this cheap buy-up option is supposed to still account for all other elites still waiting for their EUA does that mean that I would have been the only one at this point being offered $49 option or would it be available to some/all other elites behind me on the UG list? How about non-elites checking into this flight now?
If I was the only one that had the $49 option then by not paying it I risk someone buying an F ticket, M/B/Y up or whatever other fare difference to F but if I am also risking that one of the non-elites or one of the elites on the list behind me has that same $49 option then I should be paying $49 to guarantee my F seat and CO does win.
I have to say that with reading some of the threads regarding the fare difference for F versus this reduced buy-up I think there is still some information missing or maybe I just don't understand it correctly or haven't read the most recent threads.
What I'm not clear about is when it got to 19/20 full with me being #1 on the UG list and already ~10 people behind me I still had the option for the $49 upgrade. So at this point I have no problem with anyone paying the fare difference from their original ticket to get into F whatever that amount is. What I would like to know is since this cheap buy-up option is supposed to still account for all other elites still waiting for their EUA does that mean that I would have been the only one at this point being offered $49 option or would it be available to some/all other elites behind me on the UG list? How about non-elites checking into this flight now?
If I was the only one that had the $49 option then by not paying it I risk someone buying an F ticket, M/B/Y up or whatever other fare difference to F but if I am also risking that one of the non-elites or one of the elites on the list behind me has that same $49 option then I should be paying $49 to guarantee my F seat and CO does win.
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What I would like to know is since this cheap buy-up option is supposed to still account for all other elites still waiting for their EUA does that mean that I would have been the only one at this point being offered $49 option or would it be available to some/all other elites behind me on the UG list? How about non-elites checking into this flight now?
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The $49 is likely a "buy to F" and not a segment upgrade. Only the segment upgrades are supposed to account for all Elites EUAs before being offered. The "buy to F" program is eligible to anyone, regardless of status. Because you were already on a high fare (H), it wasn't that much to upgrade you into M (I forget if you're plat) or B. So were lucky in the sense of anyone could have done what you did. I, and I think a lot of us, would have jumped on $49 for what you did. Enjoy ^
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Correct me if I am wrong. So for $49 more, non-elite with H fare can get the F while many Elites sits in the back? I rarely get EUA between SFO/EWR as a Plat.
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Nah, my "buy to F" price was $208 (to an M as I am a Plat). I posted about it earlier in the thread. It was available to me right before the 24 hour mark to check in. As soon as I checked in I had the $49 option. $208 to go from H to M makes sense as my round trip H both ways was ~$550 while Round trip M were ~$1000. B fares were ~$1500 and so on.
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/conti...velopment.html.
As I noted in that thread, the fact that they are labeling it "on sale" and changing the rules of what "buying F" really means appears at first blush to be an unfortunate policy change that undermines pretty much all the previous "we're selling them at F prices; elites won't be affected" claims they have made.
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The $49 is likely a "buy to F" and not a segment upgrade. Only the segment upgrades are supposed to account for all Elites EUAs before being offered. The "buy to F" program is eligible to anyone, regardless of status. Because you were already on a high fare (H), it wasn't that much to upgrade you into M (I forget if you're plat) or B. So were lucky in the sense of anyone could have done what you did. I, and I think a lot of us, would have jumped on $49 for what you did. Enjoy ^
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Yeah glad I paid the $49. Not happy about the new way things are apparently done now. Especially since I rarely got to experience them the "old" way.

