What? No response to my execplt request?

Violist....

Forgive? Maybe....

Forget? Well, ozstamps is pretty unforgetable......

Reading ozstamps' posts (particularly the one that started this thread) reminds me of the classic definition of chutzpah... the man who murders both of his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he's an orphan.



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danville 1K

drtravels: Fly a lot

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danville 1K

Danville, new rate is $20 a post after the the first four per hour. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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~ Glen ~

Glen,

While I applaud the concept of apologizing for misdirections...what you posted above only made me feel worse about the past few weeks on FT.

I wish you hadn't posted what you wrote. I wish you had taken a much higher road and been short & clear in your words.

Just my opinion.

Regards,

Dorian

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danville 1K

[This message has been edited by danville 1K (edited 12-13-2000).]

I deleted my inappropriate message.

[This message has been edited by wonderland60069 (edited 12-14-2000).]

Oz, can you be a little more exacting what you are trying to prove? I thank you for admitting past alias...it might have been a joke that went too far. I hope so because you do have a
great deal of knowledge and great tips to offer us..I have used many of them. We all make mistakes..I know I have done my share, but never on FT would I mislead a fellow traveler with false info or false hope. Again..let us try too forget what happened and move on with the original FT concept of trust! We need people like you who spend a great deal of personal time researching and finding ways to make our family stronger. We don't need clutter or flaming. Apology accepted upon an immediate apology to the board with out adding more "fuel to the fire". Oz please respond! and tell us why you even started to clone yourself...one Oz is plenty. The holidays are coming up and I can't even get a cheap flight to Puerto Rico from MIA! This is my immediate problem- FTer's out there have any ideas to get me to the Carribean for this weekend? A 30 or 35k award is available, but I would rather save the miles and pay for the tix since my EXP status is locked in. Thanks for the year.

drtravels: AA EXP is 100k qualifing miles or points, no segment qualifier for the calender year.


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MRKEY

[This message has been edited by MRKEY (edited 12-13-2000).]

MrKey .. come join us in RIO for NYE! Love to hear about your "Baht Pass".

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/003782.html

And you can come too WonderGland from Half Wit Illinois. You can slither right on down surely? Why not go play now in the CO Forum please, and leave this thread to those with REAL names? New policy remember. Go read about it above. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif
Oh btw .. Randy's folks have logged your ISP as we speak.

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[This message has been edited by ozstamps (edited 12-13-2000).]

drtravels...make 1K on United and then ask for a comp status match. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

I agree with Dorian and MRKEY. I think a simple apology would have been far better than adding more fuel to the flames.

Now lets get back to miles and travel.

While I do not particularly condone threads such as this, Glen, to his credit and on his own terms, essentially did come forward and did apologize just as many had urged him too!

While I surely do not speak for Glen, I think his point above was perhaps simply and sadly that NOT everyone else has. He would ideally like to see "equal protection under the law!" One may also wonder to what extent Glen was perhaps (but wrongly) motivated to engage in the use of multiple handles in an effort to defend himself from countless flames directed at him from other multiple handles?

While two wrongs do not make a right, self defense may perhaps prove to be a mitigating factor in the eyes of some.

We could all likely take a higher road, IMHO!

I'm personally both forgiving and forgeting and most importantly trying to move on ahead- just as richard and others have suggested!

Perhaps if there are those, as noted, who will not ever forgive Glen or perhaps not even forget, they will still consider moving forward! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Ozstamps:

If I may make a humble suggestion on apologies. Shorter is better. Humility is better.

You could have accomplished much more with something like...

"In the past I have been accused of posting with multiple identities. I am writing to admit to a lack of judgment, and have been posting under x, y, z, etc.

I believe this behavior is wrong, and I am truly sorry.

In the spirit of clearing the air, I ask all others who have also engaged in this practice to public admit so here in this thread."

I regret that there are going to be many posts that follow that do not view your post as a true apology, but more of a "Ya'but" that most parents are familiar with.

For one, I would like to say that I am glad to see you owning up. The three hardest words many of us have to say is, "I was wrong", and since you are not married, you are probably not as practiced at it. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own."

Doc...Very well put!

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MRKEY

There is a behavior pattern evident here that is not unlike that of a spouse batterer whose MO is to provoke and then semi apologze and then move on without ever understanding that despite the jollies felt by the batterer, the receiver of the behavior continues to remember and remains scarred by the act itself.
Periods of helpful posts intermingled by nastiness is a pattern that has been consistent as if every so often there is a need to lambast someone else in order to feel important or powerful. IMHO

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