Dec 18, 2019, 12:31 pm
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AA potentially closing accounts due to credit card churning/churn
How to know if you're locked: (as of 12/22/2019)
- Call in to aadvantage reservations (800-882-8880) If you locked, you'll be forwarded to customer service instead of getting to the automated reservations system
- If you want to stay on the line, ask CSR if your account is locked (you tried to make a reservation but it wouldn't let you). CSR will inform you there's a note on your account and that corporate security will contact you
- Try to make a reservation for a super cheap hotel through useaamiles.com. There are 1000 miles / night hotels in New Delhi, so at worst you'll risk 1K miles. If you're locked, you'll see "Unable to process points. Please call our customer service for assistance."
So far, nobody seems to have gotten unlocked and gotten access to their miles back. Accounts with upcoming travel seem to be the ones that are getting terminated at the highest rate.
AA potentially closing accounts due to credit card churning/churn
How to know if you're locked: (as of 12/22/2019)
- Call in to aadvantage reservations (800-882-8880) If you locked, you'll be forwarded to customer service instead of getting to the automated reservations system
- If you want to stay on the line, ask CSR if your account is locked (you tried to make a reservation but it wouldn't let you). CSR will inform you there's a note on your account and that corporate security will contact you
- Try to make a reservation for a super cheap hotel through useaamiles.com. There are 1000 miles / night hotels in New Delhi, so at worst you'll risk 1K miles. If you're locked, you'll see "Unable to process points. Please call our customer service for assistance."
So far, nobody seems to have gotten unlocked and gotten access to their miles back. Accounts with upcoming travel seem to be the ones that are getting terminated at the highest rate.
AA accounts restricted (Nov/Dec 2019)
Aug 8, 2020, 7:05 pm
#3451
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,440
Aug 8, 2020, 11:45 pm
#3452
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,477
When I was a corporate slave a long time ago, and my employer had an AA contract and was the major source of my AA miles -- keeping that AA account was pretty important. Now that I pay my own way, losing one account with a single SUB in it is a trivial concern. The real risk is keeping large balances in any unprotected accounts.
Aug 9, 2020, 6:34 pm
#3453
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
Offer Availability
American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have received a new account bonus for a CitiBusiness® / AAdvantage® Platinum Select® account in the past 48 months.So you have to wait presumably 4 years and several months since you opened your current card (since it was presumably several months after you opened it that you earned the signup bonus).
Before they scroll off at 2 years, go AA.com and make a record of exactly when your signup bonus miles from your current card posted, because without that info you won't know when you can apply again. (Thought since Citi is notorious for making timing mistakes, and denying you based on those timing mistakes, it's always better to "pad" time between applications with Citi, so probably 49 or 50 months is safer than 48.)
Aug 12, 2020, 7:14 pm
#3454
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,606
Maybe look at the Barclay AA cards instead of Citi
https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...ss-mastercard/
https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...te-mastercard/
Aug 12, 2020, 7:46 pm
#3455
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,895
It matters how many Citi SUB bonuses you have received in the last 24 months. If you weren't playing the Mailer/emailer game you will be fine.
Maybe look at the Barclay AA cards instead of Citi
https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...ss-mastercard/
https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...te-mastercard/
Maybe look at the Barclay AA cards instead of Citi
https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...ss-mastercard/
https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...te-mastercard/
Aug 12, 2020, 8:17 pm
#3456
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,606
Also the new AA business cards are 48 months since the last bonus so he's probably not even eligible, .............Barclay should be ok
Offer Availability
American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have received a new account bonus for a CitiBusiness® / AAdvantage® Platinum Select® account in the past 48 months.
Aug 21, 2020, 4:07 pm
#3457
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,606
Just thinking out loud, my AA was terminated but our player # 3 was not. P3 does not travel so we use his points/miles and currently have 5 AA flights booked.
I was thinking of creating a new AA account Only to manage my reservations. With all the flight changes and cancellations it's a pain to check on each reservation once a week.
I know AA says you can't have a AA account if terminated, I wouldn't earn miles I would just like to be able to have all of my reservations easily available.
Probably a dumb idea that would get my dads miles taken and /or me banned from AA.
I was thinking of creating a new AA account Only to manage my reservations. With all the flight changes and cancellations it's a pain to check on each reservation once a week.
I know AA says you can't have a AA account if terminated, I wouldn't earn miles I would just like to be able to have all of my reservations easily available.
Probably a dumb idea that would get my dads miles taken and /or me banned from AA.
Aug 21, 2020, 4:11 pm
#3458
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: NYC
Programs: BA
Posts: 954
Just out of curiosity, what’s stopping you from making a new account? The threat of getting banned isn’t exactly a deterrent if the alternative is having no account at all.
Aug 21, 2020, 4:46 pm
#3459
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: SFO
Posts: 487
Just thinking out loud, my AA was terminated but our player # 3 was not. P3 does not travel so we use his points/miles and currently have 5 AA flights booked.
I was thinking of creating a new AA account Only to manage my reservations. With all the flight changes and cancellations it's a pain to check on each reservation once a week.
I know AA says you can't have a AA account if terminated, I wouldn't earn miles I would just like to be able to have all of my reservations easily available.
Probably a dumb idea that would get my dads miles taken and /or me banned from AA.
I was thinking of creating a new AA account Only to manage my reservations. With all the flight changes and cancellations it's a pain to check on each reservation once a week.
I know AA says you can't have a AA account if terminated, I wouldn't earn miles I would just like to be able to have all of my reservations easily available.
Probably a dumb idea that would get my dads miles taken and /or me banned from AA.
Aug 21, 2020, 4:51 pm
#3460
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,606
P3 has 350K AA miles and opened 4 Citi AA cards ( and one Barclay) in the 24 months prior to the AA shutdowns , he probably should have also been terminated.
If they see I opened a new AA account and look at where all the miles I am flying on came from maybe they take a closer look and his account is done.
You're right, it would be just being lazy as an AA account wouldn't bring me any status or early boarding, etc
Aug 21, 2020, 4:58 pm
#3461
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
P3 has 350K AA miles and opened 4 Citi AA cards ( and one Barclay) in the 24 months prior to the AA shutdowns , he probably should have also been terminated.
If they see I opened a new AA account and look at where all the miles I am flying on came from maybe they take a closer look and his account is done...
If they see I opened a new AA account and look at where all the miles I am flying on came from maybe they take a closer look and his account is done...
Use the miles ASAP and if you get to fly, count your blessings.
Last edited by Global321; Aug 21, 2020 at 5:04 pm Reason: missing bracket
Aug 21, 2020, 5:09 pm
#3462
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,606
I have been using his miles all through the shutdowns, no issues flying. If AA looks now he has opened 1 Citi card in the past 24 months so I think he's clear........
Actually his ~ 350K is now 234k miles
Last edited by flyer4512; Aug 21, 2020 at 5:14 pm
Aug 31, 2020, 3:50 pm
#3463
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: BDL, JFK
Posts: 658
Today's mail from Citi brought multiple notices of account closures because my American Airlines AAdvantage membership has been cancelled. This is actually good news since it saves me the trouble of calling
Aug 31, 2020, 4:47 pm
#3464
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
You would think Citi would want the account to stay open... they don't have to pay miles.
Aug 31, 2020, 4:52 pm
#3465
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: SFO
Posts: 487
maybe for legal implications as I’m sure they’re aware of the AA shutdown by now