Feb 4, 2018, 5:55 pm
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This thread is a continuation of discussion from 2015 - 2017.
Is there currently an offer for this card with a signup bonus?
Yes
Is there currently an offer for this card with a signup bonus?
Yes
- only affiliate 60k links seem to work now; go to https://www.doctorofcredit.com/citi-...ed-first-year/ for a working one and open it in in an Incognito / Private window8
- 80K TYP for $4k spend/3 months. $95 AF waived for first year.
- 30K TYP for $3K spend/3 months, $95 AF waived for first year. Open in private/incognito window for best results.
- Offer not available if you have opened or closed a Preferred, Premier, or Prestige card in the past 24 months.
- 30K TYP for $3K spend/3 months, $95 AF waived for first year. Open in private/incognito window for best results.
- Offer not available if you have opened or closed a Preferred, Premier, or Prestige card in the past 24 months.
Does anybody know when the signup bonus will increase?No. Please don't ask in the thread "just to double-check if anybody knows." Nobody knows.
Can I see the number of TYP earned on an individual purchase?No. The best you can do is visit the Account Details page for your card to see how the merchant for a given transaction was categorized.
What are the bonus categories for the Premier card?
What happens to my TY points if I close my card account?Please see the wiki at Citi ThankYou points - cancel, downgrade & expiration considerationsEffective April 19th, 2015, unless you are participating in a limited-time offer, you will earn:Airlines are classified as merchants that provide air travel. Hotels are classified as merchants that provide sleeping or meeting room accommodations, and may include goods and services that are on a bill for these accommodations by a hotel, motel or inn. Car rental agencies are classified as merchants that provide short-term or long-term rentals of cars. Travel agencies are classified as merchants that provide travel information and booking services, and include travel aggregators and tour operators. Gas stations are classified as merchants that sell fuel for consumer use and may or may not be attended. Commuter transportation is classified as merchants that provide suburban and local mass passenger transportation over regular routes and on regular schedules, including ferries, commuter railways and subways. Taxis/limousines are classified as merchants that provide passenger transportation services for hire and includes horse-drawn cabs and carriages, bicycle taxis, aerial tramways, airport shuttles or cable cars. Passenger railways are classified as merchants that primarily provide long-distance transportation and may include overnight accommodations on the train. Cruise lines are classified as merchants that provide passenger transportation on the open sea or inland waters for the purpose of vacation or pleasure and operate predefined and advertised routes. Bridge and road tolls are classified as merchants who collect fees associated with toll roads, highways and bridges. Parking lots/garages are classified as merchants that provide temporary parking services for automobiles, usually on an hourly, daily or monthly contract or fee basis. Campgrounds and trailer parks are classified as merchants that provide overnight or short-term campsites for recreational vehicles, trailers, campers, or tents. Timeshares are classified as retailers that sell, lease, and rent timeshare real estate and arrange timeshare condominium exchanges. Bus lines are classified passenger bus transportation services that operate on a regular schedule over predetermined routes. Motor home and recreational vehicle rentals are classified as merchants that rent motor homes, RVs, pop-up campers, tent trailers, and other recreational vehicles on a daily, short-term, or extended-term basis. Boat leases and boat rentals are classified as merchants that primarily provide boat rental and leasing services, including fishing boats, non-crew houseboats, sail boats, powerboats, jet skis, and yachts.
Restaurants are classified as dining establishments that primarily prepare food and drinks for immediate consumption by consumers, either on the merchant’s premises or packaged for takeout, and include bars, cocktail lounges, discotheques, nightclubs, taverns and fast food restaurants. Sports promoters are classified as merchants that operate and promote live sporting events (professional or semi-professional), and may also include sports stadiums. Theatrical promoters are classified as merchants that operate live theatrical productions or concerts, and include ticketing agencies. Movie theaters are classified as establishments that sell tickets and refreshments for movie productions. Amusement parks (including zoos, circuses and aquariums) are classified as establishments that operate parks or carnivals and offer mechanical rides and games and/or live animal shows. Tourist attractions and museums (including art galleries) are classified as establishments that operate attractions and exhibits for tourists. Record stores are classified as establishments that sell CDs and related items, including online record stores. Video rental stores are classified as merchants that rent DVDs and/or games and related equipment for consumer use, including online video rentals.
We do not determine how merchants or establishments are classified, however, they are generally classified based upon the merchant's primary line of business. We reserve the right to determine which purchases qualify for this offer. Purchases not eligible to receive the additional ThankYou Points include, but are not limited to, purchases made at warehouse clubs, discount stores, department stores and convenience stores.
You may earn ThankYou Points as long as your Card Account is open and current. If your Card Account is closed, you will not be able to earn ThankYou Points and you will lose any accumulated ThankYou Points that have not been transferred to your ThankYou Member Account. Balance transfers, cash advances, convenience checks, returned purchases, disputed or unauthorized purchases/fraudulent transactions, finance charges, Card Account fees, and fees for services and programs you elect to receive through us do not earn ThankYou Points unless otherwise specified.
If you do not already have a ThankYou Rewards Member Account ("ThankYou Member Account"), one will be set up for you. ThankYou Points earned from purchases post to your Card Account at the close of each billing cycle, and at that time we will transfer the ThankYou Points you earned to your ThankYou Member Account. (Bonus ThankYou Points may take one to two additional billing cycles to post to your Card Account.) ThankYou Points are not eligible for redemption until they are transferred to your ThankYou Member Account. ThankYou Points may not be redeemed and may be lost if your Card Account is not open or current.- Offer not available if you have opened or closed a Preferred, Premier, or Prestige card in the past 24 months.
- 3 ThankYou Points for every dollar you spend on purchases at airlines, hotels, car rental agencies, travel agencies, gas stations, commuter transportation, taxi/limousines, passenger railways, cruise lines, bridge and road tolls, parking lots/garages, campgrounds and trailer parks, time shares, bus lines, motor home/RV rental and boat rentals;
- 2 ThankYou Points for every dollar you spend on purchases at restaurants and on select entertainment merchants, including sports promoters, theatrical promoters, movie theaters, amusement parks, tourist attractions, record stores and video rental stores; and
- 1 ThankYou Point for every dollar you spend on other purchases.
- Offer not available if you have opened or closed a Preferred, Premier, or Prestige card in the past 24 months.
Citi Premier MasterCard (60,000 points for $4,000 spend in 3 months)
Apr 20, 2018, 5:51 pm
#31
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Any Recent Premiere Apps?
According to posts over on the Citi AA thread it seems there may be a new app "rule" of only one in 60 or so days. And I just did an AA app. So I'm thinking of delaying my next AA app for a couple of months. What I don't know is if the supposed "rule" only applies to AA apps, or all Citi apps. Has anyone done a Premier app lately when it was less than 60 days since your last Citi app for any sort of Citi card?
According to posts over on the Citi AA thread it seems there may be a new app "rule" of only one in 60 or so days. And I just did an AA app. So I'm thinking of delaying my next AA app for a couple of months. What I don't know is if the supposed "rule" only applies to AA apps, or all Citi apps. Has anyone done a Premier app lately when it was less than 60 days since your last Citi app for any sort of Citi card?
However, read the stuff in the AA thread very carefully. There's growing evidence that if you follow the 2-in-65 rule, then if you're denied for "multiple applications for credit" you may be able to overturn it in recon, because the "multiple applications for credit' seems to be a fraud-prevention layer perhaps more than an anti-churning layer. Cit is just assuming that if there are multiple applications coming in a short time, it may not be you and it may be fraud, so you may have to prove it was really you.
So maybe it's "no worse" than being denied at Chase for 5/24 only because they counted AU's?
Apr 22, 2018, 8:45 am
#32
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
It may or may not be an AA "rule", or perhaps it's a "mailer" rule (are there even any people who've struck by it in the AA thread who weren't ever using mailers?), who knows.
However, read the stuff in the AA thread very carefully. There's growing evidence that if you follow the 2-in-65 rule, then if you're denied for "multiple applications for credit" you may be able to overturn it in recon, because the "multiple applications for credit' seems to be a fraud-prevention layer perhaps more than an anti-churning layer. Cit is just assuming that if there are multiple applications coming in a short time, it may not be you and it may be fraud, so you may have to prove it was really you.
So maybe it's "no worse" than being denied at Chase for 5/24 only because they counted AU's?
However, read the stuff in the AA thread very carefully. There's growing evidence that if you follow the 2-in-65 rule, then if you're denied for "multiple applications for credit" you may be able to overturn it in recon, because the "multiple applications for credit' seems to be a fraud-prevention layer perhaps more than an anti-churning layer. Cit is just assuming that if there are multiple applications coming in a short time, it may not be you and it may be fraud, so you may have to prove it was really you.
So maybe it's "no worse" than being denied at Chase for 5/24 only because they counted AU's?
Apr 22, 2018, 11:55 am
#33
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: MN, USA
Posts: 246
I will say that my approval did take longer than usual (8 days from application to approval) so maybe that played into the contents of my approval letter?
Apr 22, 2018, 5:42 pm
#34
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I don't think this is true in all cases. I recently got the card and my approval letter didn't say a word about receiving the 50k TYP bonus after meeting $4k spend in the first 90 days. But I called in today and the rep said that she indeed sees the 50k TYP offer on my account (she even provided me with the exact date in which my 90-day period ends and for some reason she also gave me an immediate 1,000 TYP bonus). At least that's what I'm being told, I'll confirm back once I meet the minimum spend.
I will say that my approval did take longer than usual (8 days from application to approval) so maybe that played into the contents of my approval letter?
I will say that my approval did take longer than usual (8 days from application to approval) so maybe that played into the contents of my approval letter?
Plus, Citi never put signup bonus information on welcome letters for CitiBusiness cards.
So while mention of the signup bonus on a welcome letter means you're good to go, lack of such a mention doesn't necessarily mean anything (other than that you will have to work a little harder to figure out if you've qualified for the signup bonus).
May 3, 2018, 8:05 pm
#35
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 46
I was approved for a new Citi Premier card nine days ago and received the card yesterday. There was no mention of the sign-up bonus on my welcome letter, but a customer service agent confirmed the bonus and my deadline for meeting the spending requirement, so I'm confident that I'm okay.
My question is: is it now safe for me to close my old Citi Premier card (opened in 2015) without affecting my new card's signup bonus before I earn it? I vaguely remember reading a long time ago that this should be okay, but now that I look for that information specifically, I can't find it. Thanks for any help.
My question is: is it now safe for me to close my old Citi Premier card (opened in 2015) without affecting my new card's signup bonus before I earn it? I vaguely remember reading a long time ago that this should be okay, but now that I look for that information specifically, I can't find it. Thanks for any help.
May 4, 2018, 3:28 pm
#36
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: HGP, HHonors, Marriott
Posts: 23
no mention of bonus in welcome letter either...
I was approved for a new Citi Premier card nine days ago and received the card yesterday. There was no mention of the sign-up bonus on my welcome letter, but a customer service agent confirmed the bonus and my deadline for meeting the spending requirement, so I'm confident that I'm okay.
My question is: is it now safe for me to close my old Citi Premier card (opened in 2015) without affecting my new card's signup bonus before I earn it? I vaguely remember reading a long time ago that this should be okay, but now that I look for that information specifically, I can't find it. Thanks for any help.
My question is: is it now safe for me to close my old Citi Premier card (opened in 2015) without affecting my new card's signup bonus before I earn it? I vaguely remember reading a long time ago that this should be okay, but now that I look for that information specifically, I can't find it. Thanks for any help.
If a secure message to Citi confirms my bonus am I good to go? I was thinking of sending a message saying that my welcome letter does not have any mention of the bonus and if they can confirm that I will get the bonus after 4k spend....
Appreciate any advise.
May 5, 2018, 1:07 am
#37
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 46
I got my welcome letter today for the Premier and it does not have any mention of the bonus either. My last TY card open or close was sometime in Feb or March 2016. I applied for the Premier on April 28th 2018 so it was definitely more than 24 months,
If a secure message to Citi confirms my bonus am I good to go? I was thinking of sending a message saying that my welcome letter does not have any mention of the bonus and if they can confirm that I will get the bonus after 4k spend....
Appreciate any advise.
If a secure message to Citi confirms my bonus am I good to go? I was thinking of sending a message saying that my welcome letter does not have any mention of the bonus and if they can confirm that I will get the bonus after 4k spend....
Appreciate any advise.
May 5, 2018, 7:55 am
#38
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Because if you cancel, the points from your old card with go "poof" in 60 days, even though have you a new card.
Unlike other credit card programs, Citi TYP keeps track of every point you have separately, and expires those points earned from canceled cards, even as it keeps alive points earned from open cards. It doesn't matter whether you've moved those points around between cards or not, it still keeps track of which card you earned those points with.
So if you want to keep those points alive, don't close the old Premier card, instead downgrade it to Preferred (which will keep them alive, and allow to be transferred if they're moved to the new Premier card).
See here for more on that:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi...derations.html
As to the question you actually posed: Closing or downgrading a card does not affect the bonus on any new card that's already open.
May 5, 2018, 2:28 pm
#39
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 46
So you have no points lefft on the old Citi Premier card?
Because if you cancel, the points from your old card with go "poof" in 60 days, even though have you a new card.
Unlike other credit card programs, Citi TYP keeps track of every point you have separately, and expires those points earned from canceled cards, even as it keeps alive points earned from open cards. It doesn't matter whether you've moved those points around between cards or not, it still keeps track of which card you earned those points with.
So if you want to keep those points alive, don't close the old Premier card, instead downgrade it to Preferred (which will keep them alive, and allow to be transferred if they're moved to the new Premier card).
See here for more on that:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi...derations.html
As to the question you actually posed: Closing or downgrading a card does not affect the bonus on any new card that's already open.
Because if you cancel, the points from your old card with go "poof" in 60 days, even though have you a new card.
Unlike other credit card programs, Citi TYP keeps track of every point you have separately, and expires those points earned from canceled cards, even as it keeps alive points earned from open cards. It doesn't matter whether you've moved those points around between cards or not, it still keeps track of which card you earned those points with.
So if you want to keep those points alive, don't close the old Premier card, instead downgrade it to Preferred (which will keep them alive, and allow to be transferred if they're moved to the new Premier card).
See here for more on that:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi...derations.html
As to the question you actually posed: Closing or downgrading a card does not affect the bonus on any new card that's already open.
May 6, 2018, 6:23 am
#40
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 775
So you have no points lefft on the old Citi Premier card?
Because if you cancel, the points from your old card with go "poof" in 60 days, even though have you a new card.
Unlike other credit card programs, Citi TYP keeps track of every point you have separately, and expires those points earned from canceled cards, even as it keeps alive points earned from open cards. It doesn't matter whether you've moved those points around between cards or not, it still keeps track of which card you earned those points with.
So if you want to keep those points alive, don't close the old Premier card, instead downgrade it to Preferred (which will keep them alive, and allow to be transferred if they're moved to the new Premier card).
See here for more on that:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi...derations.html
As to the question you actually posed: Closing or downgrading a card does not affect the bonus on any new card that's already open.
Because if you cancel, the points from your old card with go "poof" in 60 days, even though have you a new card.
Unlike other credit card programs, Citi TYP keeps track of every point you have separately, and expires those points earned from canceled cards, even as it keeps alive points earned from open cards. It doesn't matter whether you've moved those points around between cards or not, it still keeps track of which card you earned those points with.
So if you want to keep those points alive, don't close the old Premier card, instead downgrade it to Preferred (which will keep them alive, and allow to be transferred if they're moved to the new Premier card).
See here for more on that:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi...derations.html
As to the question you actually posed: Closing or downgrading a card does not affect the bonus on any new card that's already open.
"If you share points with (that is, make an internal TY transfer to) another TY account, those points will expire 90 days after the transfer. Note that
- this is true regardless of whether you share to another TY user or to another TY account you hold (if you have multiple TY accounts);
- you may not share points that are expiring in less than 90 days; and
- you may not share more than 100K points (or receive more than 100K shared TY points) in any calendar year."
Last edited by SPLP007; May 6, 2018 at 6:56 am
May 7, 2018, 7:37 am
#41
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 775
Thanks for the info--- just got my 2nd premier card and still have 90k in old premier that is still open ( planned to cancel my old card as thought new would keep them safe ) saw this below : (will points will still go "poof" in 90 days if I transfer 90k from old premier to perfered and then 90k to my "new " premier)
"If you share points with (that is, make an internal TY transfer to) another TY account, those points will expire 90 days after the transfer. Note that
"If you share points with (that is, make an internal TY transfer to) another TY account, those points will expire 90 days after the transfer. Note that
- this is true regardless of whether you share to another TY user or to another TY account you hold (if you have multiple TY accounts);
- you may not share points that are expiring in less than 90 days; and
- you may not share more than 100K points (or receive more than 100K shared TY points) in any calendar year."
May 7, 2018, 7:53 am
#42
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CLT
Programs: AA, UA, BA, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 2,074
The answer is in the piece you quoted. Yes, once you "share" points, no matter who the recipient is (yourself or someone else), they expire in 90 days. Best bet is to downgrade your old premier to a free card and wait to share until you need to use them.
May 7, 2018, 4:54 pm
#43
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But I was suggesting that you product convert the old Premier to a Preferred, which is totally different than transferring from Premier to a Preferred.
Transferring from / to means transferring between two different cards that are both open at the same time. But when you product convert, you're keeping the same card account (with maybe same or maybe different card number), just changing what type of account it is.
May 26, 2018, 7:50 pm
#44
Join Date: May 2012
Location: HNL
Programs: AS MVPG, HA Plat
Posts: 1,268
Spouse received a mailer for 50k TYP for 4K spend in 3 months. No 24 month language in the mailer. Do these mailers work like AA mailers to let another person (me) bypass the 24 month restriction, and can they be used by multiple people? Tons of data points on the AA thread but none here. (Yes, I know I may have to be the data point I want to see, but don’t want to try it if it’s known not to work.)
Jun 13, 2018, 1:12 pm
#45
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 27
Apologies if this isn't the right thread and feel free to redirect, but...
I recently signed up for a Premier card with the new 50k bonus and after the fact discovered the 24 month restriction, then realized that I opened my Prestige (still open) ~23 months prior. What's my likelihood of actually receiving my signup bonus given the 24 month rule?
I recently signed up for a Premier card with the new 50k bonus and after the fact discovered the 24 month restriction, then realized that I opened my Prestige (still open) ~23 months prior. What's my likelihood of actually receiving my signup bonus given the 24 month rule?