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For questions NOT related to the application process - such as experiences using benefits - refer to the AA forum thread on this card: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (Master Thread)

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer for some Citi cards. We do not know, and Citi has not indicated, how long these offers will last. Citi has left other offers alive for over a year beyond the 'apply by' date in the past. These links could be here all year or gone tomorrow. If the application loads, it is good, based on past Citi applications that survived past the landing page expiration, regardless of any posted or advertised 'apply by' date.

MOST CURRENT LINKS:



CURRENT PUBLIC OFFER: 50k

"American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive® / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months"

Link A50

Link B50

Link C50

Link D50

Link E50

Link F50

Link G50

PREVIOUS OFFERS


Previous 75k links (NOT WORKING 11/18)


Link A75, Link B75, Link C75, Link D75, Link E75, Link F75, Link G75, Link H75, Link I75, Link J75, Link K75


Landing Page
Application Page (Both pages include the 18 month language).

http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...-executive.jsp

Option 1: Zombie Link with no Landing Page, Several FTers have been using this link with Success. Application Link 50k with 5k spending

Option 2: [note: may be dead or dying as of 3/16/15- check most recent posts in thread] Current Zombie link Application Link 50K for 5K spending, no statement credit.

Option 3: This Link was obtained off of aa.com at one point Bonus is unknown Application Link.

Option 4: Citi Website Offer; Application has the following warning
"American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive® / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months" There are indeed several reports of people who have already had an EXEC card not receiving any signup bonus miles. And no reports of anyone who has had an EXEC before actually getting any signup bonus at all. Do NOT use this link if you have ever had an EXEC card.
Landing page for New 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and Application Link
The following are identical to Option 4, but the landing pages were working at the time they were entered into this wiki. All landing pages and application pages have the same content but (slightly) different URLs:
Option 4a: Landing page and Application page
Option 4b: Landing page and Application page
Option 4c: Landing page and Application page

Option 5: Does not have the 18-month language of Option 4, and the application form has the older format (like Option 2 and unlike Option 4).
Landing page for 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and Application Link


Option 6: Artificially generated links; all lead to old-format application pages just like Options 1/2/5, without the "18 months" language found in Option 4 application pages. No landing page ever existed.
There are reports in the thread that applications using 6a/6d were approved but the UPS letter did not mention a bonus, and Citi telephone agents said there would be no bonus. Other reports say that the bonus was stated in the letter.
6a: Application page
6b: Application page
6c: Application page

6d: Application page

Option 7:The following link is very similar to Options 1/2/5 and has been found to work without an 18-month restriction. Since it does not originate from a landing page, there is no web page showing the bonus offer. However, the UPS letter confirms a 50K-mile bonus after $5K spend, and many people have reported that the bonuses have appeared in their AAdvantage accounts. Application Link Link to application page began dying on 6/1/2015. Now completely dead.



EXPEDITED SHIPPING
While reconsideration/application reps do not seem to be aware of this, these cards are expedited and usually arrive 1-2 days after approval.The CSR will not take a request to expedite the card.

Who is eligible for this card? Anyone as long as you can be approved for the minimum $5K credit line, subject to the standard Citi rules of 1 Citi app or card of any kind per 8 days and 2 Citi cards or apps of any kind per 65 days. It is always advisable to wait 65 days from any type of Citi denial before applying for another Citi card. Many have reported getting approved for this card in spite of having several open AA cards over the past year as well as having previously had this card.

Not sure about the 8 and 65 day rules? If your most recent application for any Citi card is less than click here - 8 days ago, you need to wait. Also, if your previous (second-to-last) Citi application is less than click here - 65 days ago, you need to wait. These are not rules published or known by Citi CSRs but rather based on thousands of Citi card applications and datapoints across several threads.

Credit inquiry history
Some have reported more approval success with no more than 5 or 6 Experian inquiries within the last 6 months. And Citi credit reviewers have told some applicants that too many inquiries is a problem, even with an excellent credit score. Multiple inquiries from other banks seem to be especially problematic, because Citi can't see their current balances as easily. Other applicants have been approved with more inquiries, especially with a long term Citi tenure and a favorable income to debt ratio.

This card can be churned. Recent datapoints concerning multiple Executive cards include posts 917, 1059 and starting at 1365. For in-depth datapoints and advice on churning Citi cards, read and study the extensive wiki posts in the HH thread and the AA Plat/gold thread. Click the plus on the right hand side of the wiki if you do not see the wiki text. Datapoints for bonus points posting on multiple cards include post 2579.


Getting around the $450 annual fee: Many people have been able to meet the spending requirement before the first statement posts and then cancel and have the fee refunded after the miles post. Details and datapoints include starting at post 74. T&C state that the card must be cancelled within 30 days of the fee posting to get it refunded; in practice you have 37 days. Potential problems with this plans include a very short (1 week or less) first "month" as well as delays in miles posting which have been reported by several FTers.

Once you cancel the card (within the 37 day window of AF posting) the refund will post on the account between 1-3 business days. Leave a $450 balance and it will be zeroed out.

Retention Bonus Offers: User have been offered the following retention bonus offers when calling to cancel the card:

- 5,000 points + $100 credit with $1,500 spend per month for 3 months 5333
- 2 additional club member passes 6862
- 1,000 bonus miles each month for 16 month, min $1k spend/month 6862
- [3/15] 15,000 bonus miles for spending $5k
- $450 Credit for spending $5k for next three statements

Already a member? If you already purchased an AC membership (for example, using the credit from Amex Plat) and apply and are approved for this card, AA will refund you the pro-rated AF from any time left on your membership.

When do miles post? Usually two days after your statement closing date. In some cases your statement will show the correct miles earned but will show 0 miles reported to AA. In this case see this thread.


Helpful points from post #3794 and others, especially for those new to Citi:
1) Citi CSRs are clueless, so disregard everything they say that seems to contradict anything you have read on F/T. And take everything else with a big grain of salt. I was told 3 times VERY CLEARLY "You will not got your annual fee refunded" while I was cancelling, but I did get it.

2a) With Citi, if you are approved for a card, and meet the minimum spend requirement, you will get the bonus listed for the offer you applied for. Every time ! Unlike Chase or AMEX, who will send you a card, wait for you to pay the fee and spend, and then say "sorry, you don't qualify for a bonus". If Citi doesn't intend to give you the bonus, they will just deny your app. They won't even do a pull, they will just instantly deny your app. If they send you the card, and you meet the spend on time, you will get the bonus. My attorney insists I add "that could change tomorrow", but from the Big Bang thru today, that has always been true.Recently, Citi has been approving Exec cards but not giving the bonus, e.g. when there has been less than 18 months from the previous application. Therefore, (a) use an application link that does not list the 18-month wait requirement; (b) check the letter you get via UPS to see if it explicitly promises the bonus; if it's in the letter, it will be honored (c) if in doubt, call and ask.

2b) Another helpful post discussing timeframe for meeting min spend: 6279

3) Any expectation that Citi will do things that make sense is just plain silly. They won't.

Citibank Contacts/Resources
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117
Admiral Club Access: You do not need to be flying AA that particular day of travel. (Ex: you're flying DL on the day of travel...you could still enter the AC lounge, even though you're not on an AA flight that day.) Beware, though, that individual lounges have individual rules (see the link below). Alternate rules usually come w/ Qantas lounges, not AA lounges. Furthermore, AC access "comes with" US Air access (19 locations). As of December 2015, authorized users have AC access (but not partner lounge access) even if they are not with the primary card holder.

For reference, an AC lounge list: http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...#admirals-club
For questions and discussions on lounge access: Help Desk: Lounge Access and Lounge Access Rules
Information on new authorized user AC lounge access: Citi Authorized User Admirals Club Benefit Terms

Also, please note that these cards do not include the 10% miles rebate offered by some other Citi AA products.

What about the EQM? AA tracks your miles earned on Executive card(s) and adds 10K Elite Qualifying Miles to your EQM balance once you earn 40,000 miles during a calendar year on Executive card(s). Any number of Executive cards can add up to the 40K, and you cannot earn more than 10K EQM each year. No redeemable miles are added, and this is of no consequence or value unless you will also earn at least 15K additional EQM in a given year by flying and 10K will bump you up to the next status level.

Direct phone number to Citi Fraud Prevention department: +18664705331

Concierge service enrollment (allows for electronic requests). Concierge number is +18778812668

Here are the minimum credit limit required amounts in order to keep an account open (for purposes of new card applications and reconsiderations)
Citi Amex 1k (likely citi gold as well)
Citi Visa signature/world MasterCard 3k (as low as 1k on some accounts YYMV)
Citi World elite Mastercards (including exec) 5k


Advice to those new to citi American Airlines cards,

If you are just starting out please apply and use the lower level citi AA card for a while before moving on to this thread and card. This will help you in the long run in more ways than one. Most of us here have opened and used lower level AA cards before moving on to this thread and card
Also,
Check out this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...-benefits.html
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 3:16 am
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Originally Posted by Brugge
In MY head, you are 80% approved, and 20% denied. Good Luck !
and 97.68% of all stats are made up on the spot and complete BS.
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 10:48 am
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Stepped back into the ring and applied yesterday for 50k via what I think to be link #4 .
Got a prompt to call in but I'm just gonna let it roll through on its own
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by rgAAFT
Stepped back into the ring and applied yesterday for 50k via what I think to be link #4 .
Got a prompt to call in but I'm just gonna let it roll through on its own
Usually, if you get a request to call in it's not that much of a problem. Often as simple as verifying your id, or moving some CL.

It's when they say they will let you know, and don't even give you an id number, that it's a tough approval.

I'd call, but that's just me....
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by rgAAFT
Stepped back into the ring and applied yesterday for 50k via what I think to be link #4 .
Got a prompt to call in but I'm just gonna let it roll through on its own
The wiki got cleaned up last night for all the links
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by ninim2200
The wiki got cleaned up last night for all the links
Much better. Good job... ^
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Brugge
Usually, if you get a request to call in it's not that much of a problem. Often as simple as verifying your id, or moving some CL.

It's when they say they will let you know, and don't even give you an id number, that it's a tough approval.

I'd call, but that's just me....

Well I caved and called.. Declined... both agents sighted
Number of recent account openings and the lady that said she was a supervisor also brought up my other exec card , opened and closed in July as another factor

some of you guys must have the magic touch with these reps, I have like 20k credit total with citi mostly UN used but yet have only managed to snag 2 100k cards
Once when this deal first started and a second time was the above mentioned July card (but that time I was in Spain and didn't call. Every time I call I seem to be declined with no option to move credit... I am not complaining, I just want to know why, when most of you can get 10+ of these cards...? Maybe I really should count the number of expirien pulls I have on my CR... When does citi's "max hard pull" counter reset? First of the year? It has gotten to the point where I almost told the supervisor, why the F am I constantly being used as an example for the " rules" when people can get these things every 8 days , but I didn't
This sucks ...
Sad rant over...
Ps , if I come across as blaming somebody , I'm sorry
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 5:26 pm
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did anyone else get approved or denied since Friday?
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 5:57 pm
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I am tempted to write the executive office... But , what to say... Probably won't though , for the greater good..
This is lame though
I Probably need to book something for spring break lol
There is a 70k Chase offer but that's a can of worms that I won't touch, for fear of Jason picking up the phone lol
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by rgAAFT
Well I caved and called.. Declined... both agents sighted
Number of recent account openings and the lady that said she was a supervisor also brought up my other exec card , opened and closed in July as another factor

some of you guys must have the magic touch with these reps, I have like 20k credit total with citi mostly UN used but yet have only managed to snag 2 100k cards

Once when this deal first started and a second time was the above mentioned July card (but that time I was in Spain and didn't call. Every time I call I seem to be declined with no option to move credit... I am not complaining, I just want to know why, when most of you can get 10+ of these cards...? Maybe I really should count the number of expirien pulls I have on my CR... When does citi's "max hard pull" counter reset? First of the year? It has gotten to the point where I almost told the supervisor, why the F am I constantly being used as an example for the " rules" when people can get these things every 8 days , but I didn't
This sucks ...
Sad rant over...
Ps , if I come across as blaming somebody , I'm sorry
Sorry that I encouraged you to call in, when you could have just waited for the denial letter and saved yourself the aggravation. I really don't understand why they asked you to call, since they almost certainly knew they were going to deny you anyway. Usually in that case they just say "we'll let you know".

When I was denied last May, it wasn't mainly for HPs, and definitely not for Citi apps. The CSR harped on the "new accounts opened", and when she gave me the dates, those were not for Citi cards, those were for AMEX and Chase apps.

So how much of a CL you have with Citi is only one factor. I'm curious how many HPs you had with whatever CB Citi pulled, and how many new accounts you have opened lately.

The time frame here is 6 months. How many HPs and how many new accounts within 6 months. I was turned down with 11 HPs and 12 new accounts in late May. By Sept 6th I was back down to 3 HPs and 4 new accounts, and I got an instant approval for another EXEC. I waited a couple of weeks past the 6 month mark, because as we all know, Citi isn't that good at math.
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Brugge
Sorry that I encouraged you to call in, when you could have just waited for the denial letter and saved yourself the aggravation. I really don't understand why they asked you to call, since they almost certainly knew they were going to deny you anyway. Usually in that case they just say "we'll let you know".

When I was denied last May, it wasn't mainly for HPs, and definitely not for Citi apps. The CSR harped on the "new accounts opened", and when she gave me the dates, those were not for Citi cards, those were for AMEX and Chase apps.

So how much of a CL you have with Citi is only one factor. I'm curious how many HPs you had with whatever CB Citi pulled, and how many new accounts you have opened lately.

The time frame here is 6 months. How many HPs and how many new accounts within 6 months. I was turned down with 11 HPs and 12 new accounts in late May. By Sept 6th I was back down to 3 HPs and 4 new accounts, and I got an instant approval for another EXEC. I waited a couple of weeks past the 6 month mark, because as we all know, Citi isn't that good at math.

I have citi identity monitor, how best is it to start counting inquiries? I need to start approaching this more scientifically..
About a few weeks ago I applied for wells Fargo card cause I needed the money to buy new phone and a month prior,I think I got AMEX PRG
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 7:06 pm
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rgAAFT, I had almost the identical experience. She wanted to know why I closed a card in July and opened another in Aug. hard to answer that question lol. Denied denied by rep and supervisor.
I got a small car loan in March...opened a Barclay in March, chase in April, a citi exec in July, and another exec in Aug. I tried for this third exec last week and was denied (first ever denial)...so this would have been my 6th HP this year. Except only the 4th last 6mo...so I have no idea What the deal is.
The only thing I can determine is I still have the 450 fee showing on card I opened August. So I feel she saw the July closed, only the fee left on the opened, and assumed I was going to do the same thing.

Two questions for anyone:
1) if I pay the fee (since card payment day is coming) then cancel befor the fee 37days is up can I still get the refund on the af? I'm wondering if I call recon back with the fee on the open card paid if it will look better.
2) If I applied and was denied on the 20th of this month and wanna try one more time around Oct 5th should I try to salvage the application already in there or just put in a new application?
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by air360
rgAAFT, I had almost the identical experience. She wanted to know why I closed a card in July and opened another in Aug. hard to answer that question lol. Denied denied by rep and supervisor.
I got a small car loan in March...opened a Barclay in March, chase in April, a citi exec in July, and another exec in Aug. I tried for this third exec last week and was denied (first ever denial)...so this would have been my 6th HP this year. Except only the 4th last 6mo...so I have no idea What the deal is.
The only thing I can determine is I still have the 450 fee showing on card I opened August. So I feel she saw the July closed, only the fee left on the opened, and assumed I was going to do the same thing.

Two questions for anyone:
1) if I pay the fee (since card payment day is coming) then cancel befor the fee 37days is up can I still get the refund on the af? I'm wondering if I call recon back with the fee on the open card paid if it will look better.
2) If I applied and was denied on the 20th of this month and wanna try one more time around Oct 5th should I try to salvage the application already in there or just put in a new application?
1. If your AF posted/ and or played within 37 days, you should be eligible for the fee to be refunded
2. I would try to work with the existing application and not submit a new one
I myself am thinking about calling back, but just don't think it would be wise
But seriously,with the increased interest and subsequent call volume that this card is generating, the reps can't possibly not know what's really going on, so why give" "qualified loyal customers" a hard time?
On top of that, I still have my original exec card open (i actually paid the fee once) and plan to keep it as long as I can afford to

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Old Sep 29, 2014, 8:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Brugge
Usually, if you get a request to call in it's not that much of a problem. Often as simple as verifying your id, or moving some CL.

It's when they say they will let you know, and don't even give you an id number, that it's a tough approval.

I'd call, but that's just me....
Wife and I got approved for 12/12 and never once got an id #, so I think your advice is just a tad farfetched
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by ninim2200
did anyone else get approved or denied since Friday?
I got approved yesterday, 3rd card total over the last 3 months.
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Old Sep 29, 2014, 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by dillingerdis
I got approved yesterday, 3rd card total over the last 3 months.
Great and congrats. i just wanted to make sure that my potential denial and rgAAft is not the norm.
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