May 17, 2013, 11:04 pm
Last edit by: beltway
- What are the most current working links?
- Is this card churnable?
- How frequently can I apply for these cards?
- Do I have to close my previous card before reapplying?
- I got the 60K card and bonus but when I finished the spend on my second 60K card I did not get the bonus. What happened?
[1] What are the most current working links?
There is a standard offer for 50K points after $1K spend in 4 months. (No landing page is available for this offer; lnik taken from wiki for http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...amex-citi.html.)
There are no known 60K offers available. The most recent one expired in late September 2014.
[2] Is this card churnable?
In the past, this card has been easily churnable. However, in December 2014 Citi began inserting language into some applications and landing pages disqualifying current Hilton Visa cardholders & requiring an 18-month wait from the date of the previous card's cancellation. The application link listed above does not include this restriction, and FTers have confirmed that they have been approved through this application despite being current or recent holders of another Citi Hilton card.
[3] How frequently can I apply for these cards?
You can only apply for ONE Citi card in a week or TWO in two months (60 days). To be safe, it is frequently suggested to wait 8+ days between ANY two Citi applications and 65+ days until your third Citi application of ANY kind. These are rolling dates, so you have to wait at least 60 days (65+) from your second application to your 4th applications, and so forth.
If math is not your strong suit, you can use: http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html.
Example:
Day 0 - Citi HHonors Card #1
Day 8 - Citi AA Personal Card
Day 65 - Citi AA Business Card
Day 73 - Citi HHonors Card #2
Day 130 - Citi TY Card
[4] Do I have to close my previous card before reapplying?
Not if you use the application link above. As stated above, in December 2014 Citi began introducing new application pages requiring an 18-month wait since cancellation of the prior card.
Note that when you close an account, Citi may not "free up" the credit limit from that card for as long as 6 months. So if you're going to apply within 6 months, it's better to not cancel beforehand.
[5] I got the 60K card and bonus but when I finished the spend on my second 60K card I did not get the bonus. What happened?
There appears to be a problem with Citi crediting you with both bonuses but Hilton not crediting the second bonus because their system sees it as a duplicate.
You need to open up a case, preferably with Hilton, and explain that you have two separate cards (feel free to explain one is for business and one for personal if they ask why you have multiple cards and you feel like explaining). You also need to diligently check back with them and make sure that they do not close the case as you already got the bonus.
This is very much a YMMV situation. Depending on who you talk to and where, this can be a relatively short process or a particularly unpleasant and long one. Best advice: Be nice to the CSRs and get them on your side or HUACA until you find someone useful.
For some people it may be worth getting the 50K card instead, possibly trying to "bump the bonus" to 60K and getting it as a 10K adjustment instead.
Citi Hilton HHonors Visa [2011-2014]
Jun 12, 2014, 12:16 pm
#2446
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I'm spacing out some applications and waiting for some hard inquiries to fall off in July before I apply w/Citi again (or anyone). I'm not worried about getting approved then - but I wouldn't do it now as I just applied recently for another Amex & Chase card.
In the meantime, I can earn an extra 5k points on this card that I wouldn't have earned without calling/asking. These are free points. I will apply for another one, absolutely, but it will be next month. I MS $17k/mo, so I've now dedicated $1k of it to that Citi HH card. Not regretting it.
Jun 12, 2014, 4:29 pm
#2447
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Location: Madison, WI, USA
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My 5th card arrived today, and I called to get the 60K offer before activating. The rep dutifully took down the details of the original offer and said she would send the request, but it would take 5-7 days. While giving her the info, I realized that the cash portion of the original offer was better for me than the 60K offer, since I seldom rent cars but I can easily spend $50 at a Hilton hotel.
So I made the $1000 spend today, and if that results in getting the 50K offer instead of the 60K offer, I'll be fine with that.
So I made the $1000 spend today, and if that results in getting the 50K offer instead of the 60K offer, I'll be fine with that.
Jun 12, 2014, 9:03 pm
#2448
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,607
If you asked for the 60K offer seems as if they granted it but most likely you also get the $25 rental credit as part of the deal
$50 Hilton credit posts after the spend when that statement closes
Jun 16, 2014, 7:47 am
#2449
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: DTW
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This has probably already been asked and answered, but I can't find it with a search. When do the bonus points post - after you hit the $1000 spend or with the first statement that closes after you hit the spend?
Hopefully it won't matter as my statement will close the 18th and I just went past the $1000 mark. I still have several charges pending though from last week, including a Hampton stay. I see a good redemption rate for my October trip to London, so would like to lock it in but need the 60K points to book it.
Hopefully it won't matter as my statement will close the 18th and I just went past the $1000 mark. I still have several charges pending though from last week, including a Hampton stay. I see a good redemption rate for my October trip to London, so would like to lock it in but need the 60K points to book it.
Jun 16, 2014, 8:36 am
#2450
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 3,677
They post after a statement closes with the spend having been credited.
Hopefully those pending charges will post today. Charges that are still pending when the statement closes don't count until the next statement. Worse, sometimes charges that post just before the statement closes somehow don't get counted either. With luck they will post in time for the statement close, in which case they should be in your HH account a few days after that.
Hopefully those pending charges will post today. Charges that are still pending when the statement closes don't count until the next statement. Worse, sometimes charges that post just before the statement closes somehow don't get counted either. With luck they will post in time for the statement close, in which case they should be in your HH account a few days after that.
Jun 16, 2014, 11:59 am
#2451
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So he went ahead to apply for the 60K on Tuesday, instant approval with very high CL. Will lower it to 5K once card arrives.
Last edited by Happy; Jun 17, 2014 at 1:44 pm
Jun 16, 2014, 9:47 pm
#2452
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I called to check, and the offer remains a $50 credit for hotel purchases of $50 or more, so it looks like I got the best of both offers. Now I have to figure out if there's a way to use the $50 credits that I have with two cards on one AXON stay. This will be at the Conrad Centennial Singapore, so I figure 1 dinner will be $50 or more. I'll have to pay the 3% foreign exchange fee, but close to free is good, too.
Jun 17, 2014, 1:13 pm
#2453
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I called to check, and the offer remains a $50 credit for hotel purchases of $50 or more, so it looks like I got the best of both offers. Now I have to figure out if there's a way to use the $50 credits that I have with two cards on one AXON stay. This will be at the Conrad Centennial Singapore, so I figure 1 dinner will be $50 or more. I'll have to pay the 3% foreign exchange fee, but close to free is good, too.
Jun 17, 2014, 5:04 pm
#2454
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,607
I called to check, and the offer remains a $50 credit for hotel purchases of $50 or more, so it looks like I got the best of both offers. Now I have to figure out if there's a way to use the $50 credits that I have with two cards on one AXON stay. This will be at the Conrad Centennial Singapore, so I figure 1 dinner will be $50 or more. I'll have to pay the 3% foreign exchange fee, but close to free is good, too.
So you got 60K and a $50 Hilton credit ? When they bumped the 40K plus $50 credit I got on my last HH to 50K +$50 crdit 10k points posted separately and said courtesy adjustment
Makes me wonder if I should apply under the 50k +$50 link them SM the next day asking for 60K points.
The $50 credit is good for 6 months ( from the day you apply) if you have another stay planned for the 2nd card
Jun 18, 2014, 9:54 pm
#2455
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,607
Just applied for the 60K card. My first ever non instant approval with this card.
I wasn't denied, gave me the needs further review line and they will email within a week so we'll see.
Does anyone know if applying for the 80K IHG card right now could effect this applications decision ?
Thanks
I wasn't denied, gave me the needs further review line and they will email within a week so we'll see.
Does anyone know if applying for the 80K IHG card right now could effect this applications decision ?
Thanks
Jun 19, 2014, 11:09 am
#2456
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: MDT
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Just applied for the 60K card. My first ever non instant approval with this card.
I wasn't denied, gave me the needs further review line and they will email within a week so we'll see.
Does anyone know if applying for the 80K IHG card right now could effect this applications decision ?
Thanks
I wasn't denied, gave me the needs further review line and they will email within a week so we'll see.
Does anyone know if applying for the 80K IHG card right now could effect this applications decision ?
Thanks
Jun 19, 2014, 11:25 am
#2457
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,607
Thanks, I have about $400 a month in bills that only take Visa So $1,000 over 3/4 month cards work perfect for those bills.
Update, just applied for the IHG card, instant approval with a $27K CL. I believe that is the highest CL I have ever received. I'll lower it to $5K right after I make the spend.
Hopefully the Citi pending decision is just a review, the only card I have ever been denied for in my life was a Chase United card
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Jun 19, 2014, 12:00 pm
#2458
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Thanks, I have about $400 a month in bills that only take Visa So $1,000 over 3/4 month cards work perfect for those bills.
Update, just applied for the IHG card, instant approval with a $27K CL. I believe that is the highest CL I have ever received. I'll lower it to $5K right after I make the spend.
Hopefully the Citi pending decision is just a review, the only card I have ever been denied for in my life was a Chase United card
Update, just applied for the IHG card, instant approval with a $27K CL. I believe that is the highest CL I have ever received. I'll lower it to $5K right after I make the spend.
Hopefully the Citi pending decision is just a review, the only card I have ever been denied for in my life was a Chase United card
Jun 19, 2014, 12:32 pm
#2459
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,607
Prior to today I don't think I ever got a CL over 15K on any personal card, bus cards are higher.
My only guess is it's because I only have one Chase card open prior with a $5K limit.
One card pending with Citi, 14 hours later a 27K CL with Chase, go figure, lol
Jun 19, 2014, 6:21 pm
#2460
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It's odd though as my credit score is not any different (maybe 20 points up or down depending on apps)than anytime in the past 10 years that I have been churning.
Prior to today I don't think I ever got a CL over 15K on any personal card, bus cards are higher.
My only guess is it's because I only have one Chase card open prior with a $5K limit.
One card pending with Citi, 14 hours later a 27K CL with Chase, go figure, lol
Prior to today I don't think I ever got a CL over 15K on any personal card, bus cards are higher.
My only guess is it's because I only have one Chase card open prior with a $5K limit.
One card pending with Citi, 14 hours later a 27K CL with Chase, go figure, lol
A couple years ago, Chase gave him 22K line on a Marriott, followed by a 2K line on an IHG when it was still called Priority Club.
