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moondog Dec 4, 2021 8:02 am


Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666 (Post 33783051)
I've been using it since the 80s

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The Chinese Embassy is located in Washington DC.

IluvSQ Dec 4, 2021 8:09 am


Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666 (Post 33783051)
I've been using it since the 80s

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Perhaps a consulate, but definitely not an embassy - unless at the U.N.

moondog Dec 4, 2021 8:26 am

The PRC consulates to the US are located in Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, and Washington DC (Houston is departed).

The US consulates to China are located in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenyang, and Wuhan.

STS-134 Dec 4, 2021 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 33783163)
The PRC consulates to the US are located in Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, and Washington DC (Houston is departed).

The US consulates to China are located in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenyang, and Wuhan.

That would be true if you had said "diplomatic missions" instead of consulates. Technically, the things in Washington DC and and Beijing are embassies, not consulates.

moondog Dec 4, 2021 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by STS-134 (Post 33784354)
That would be true if you had said "diplomatic missions" instead of consulates. Technically, the things in Washington DC and and Beijing are embassies, not consulates.

The place we go to on Wisconsin Avenue in DC is a consulate. The embassy is a much nicer facility in Van Ness. I believe the entire US operation in Beijing now takes place within the embassy.

STS-134 Dec 4, 2021 4:52 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 33784556)
The place we go to on Wisconsin Avenue in DC is a consulate. The embassy is a much nicer facility in Van Ness. I believe the entire US operation in Beijing now takes place within the embassy.

Huh, today I learned that the PRC has two chanceries in one city, one embassy and one consulate. I've never heard of that before.

percysmith Dec 4, 2021 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by STS-134 (Post 33784594)
Huh, today I learned that the PRC has two chanceries in one city, one embassy and one consulate. I've never heard of that before.

The offices of the Canadian High Commission in London were operating in split locations (Macdonald House and Canada House) for a while too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Co...ingdom#History

Canada has a High Commission instead of an Embassy in London because the Monarchy of Canada is in personal union as the Monarchy of the United Kingdom, so the Queen cannot properly send an ambassador to herself. Each Commonwealth kingdom (Realm) has legislation to treat High Commissions as embassies, rather than localising the VCDR.

uanj Dec 4, 2021 11:45 pm


Originally Posted by STS-134 (Post 33784594)
Huh, today I learned that the PRC has two chanceries in one city, one embassy and one consulate. I've never heard of that before.

Yeah, this is not uncommon. Ages ago I had to to the British Consulate in Washington DC and the taxi driver took me to the Embassy instead, Basically same compound, but when I arrived I was told "This is the Embassy of the United Kingdom, this is not a consulate! We do not deal with consular affairs here!" with a high degree of indignation.

Cathay Dragon 666 Dec 5, 2021 11:41 am

Since we're splitting hairs. Embassy is where the Ambassador works and his relevant staff. They don't handle "consulate affairs" such as offering visas, and other services. For that technically you would need to go to a "Consulate", where the affairs are done.

ftrichard Dec 5, 2021 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666 (Post 33786535)
Since we're splitting hairs. Embassy is where the Ambassador works and his relevant staff. They don't handle "consulate affairs" such as offering visas, and other services. For that technically you would need to go to a "Consulate", where the affairs are done.

I'm sure many of the Ambassadors and Embassy staff are having affairs. It's that kind of discrete profession. Or is this not what you meant?

jamar Dec 6, 2021 12:41 am

To bring this back on topic, I found this news article to be quite interesting. I've now learned that there is a nation of Dominica, that it is not the same as the Dominican Republic, and that their country has managed to sign a visa-free entry agreement with China that is now in effect even as they remain closed off everyone else. Granted, this is still pretty far off from open access (presumably the green code and quarantine requirements remain in place for said visa-free visitors) but maybe this is another step in the right direction.

percysmith Dec 6, 2021 8:19 am

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-to-normality

(or, for those who like to get the news from the horse’s mouth https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Odam0gkEZ-NnH91cSu86XA )


China's top health expert identified two
conditions for the country to return
to "normality," and maintained that
authorities should stick to their Covid
Zero policy in battling the omicron
variant.

Prerequisites for getting back to normal
include fatalities from Covid-19 needing
to fall to a rate of 0.1% -- similar to
influenza's - said Zhong Nanshan, who
heads China's Covid task force, according
to the state-backed Global Times. That's
still a far-off target, as the global death
rate stands at over 1.9%.

The virus's reproduction rate --a
measure of how many people one patient
can transmit the virus to - also needs
to remain within a range of 1 to 1.5,
according to Zhong.

gudugan Dec 6, 2021 8:31 am

Dominica has a population of less than 100,000 people and their national gross income is about $7000 USD a year. Suffice to say this is not very useful to many people.

I actually don't know if they're honoring visa-free entry (and if quarantine counts towards those days): for example, Qatari citizens have 30 day visa free entry to China, if you are unlucky and do 28 days of quarantine, do you have to leave immediately afterwards?

Anyways, yes, all of the same entry restrictions other than a visa apply: https://www.mfa.gov.cn/ce/ceqa//eng/zxxx/t1844266.htm

moondog Dec 6, 2021 8:51 am

I wonder if my mom's 10-year visa will be extended by 2+ years. I think I know the answer, but I'm mildly curious.

Loren Pechtel Dec 6, 2021 8:08 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 33788955)
I wonder if my mom's 10-year visa will be extended by 2+ years. I think I know the answer, but I'm mildly curious.

I can't imagine they'll extend them. What's in it for them? People aren't going to decide not to go because they lost a few years off their visa due to the pandemic. We lost visas due to SARS, they weren't extended. The miles we had have already expired (not enough to do anything with and now pretty much useless to us anyway since the relevant flight doesn't fly anymore), I don't expect it to be any different for visas.

I just hope they get to a point more attainable than that Bloomberg post.


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