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Originally Posted by ncour
(Post 32766333)
so, assuming a family gets in and assuming their visa is current. Does anyone know of the actual cost of the 14 day quarantine? I've hear everywhere from ¥100-600/person? couples needing to separate etc. I've got people looking to go back that are families with children (I would assume they won't split up a family?).
My real question is do we know of a source besides here-say that gives these actual costs? 1) Family will be split up, only one adult per room. Meaning husband and wife will each be in their own room. Children can stay with either parent of the parent's choosing. By the way hotels are randomly assigned so don't ask about picking your own hotel with extra cash or other reasons. 2) Price range depends on the hotel you're sent to, but generally within $300-$600. Food charge is extra per person per room. Again actual price depends on the hotel, but expect anywhere between $100 - $150 RMB per person per day. All 14 days are expected to be paid up front, including food. Should you be release early (see below for circumstances), they will refund you the price differences later. NOTE: it is best to have Alipay or WeChat Pay. You may pay by credit card but beware not all hotels accept foreign cards, and they really really hate processing credit cards and will keep asking you to pay by other means (seen it happened at the check-in table). 3) If you have residence in Shanghai, and you have younger children (other reasons are Seniors, Pregnant, Disabled), you can apply for "humanitarian considerations" - that means if the airport COVID test returns negative, you *may* be granted early release from the hotel and return home for quarantine (not free roaming, you are expected to quarantine yourself in your own home). Forms will be provided for you to fill out once you've checked-in (so don't ask the people at the airport for early release applications or approvals, they don't know nor will they care to help you). Be aware the Community Management Office of your residence must also approved this. Just to let you know the decision isn't the head doctor stationed at your hotel alone. 4) Or, if you don't qualify for "humanitarian considerations", but have residence in Shanghai, you can apply for "7+7", 7 days in the hotel and 7 days at home quarantine. 5) Finally, worst case, you need to stay at the hotel for 14 days Also, to let you know, depending on the time you're flying into Pudong, the process of deplane to getting checked-in can be many many hours. If you have young children may be a good idea to have some food/drinks in your carry-on. My family and I came in at 7 PM and the airport was deserted, but from deplaning, to first-check-point, to second-point COVID test, to custom and luggage, to registration with local police for hotel assignment, finally to arrival at the assigned hotel and checked-in, it still took us a good 2-3 hours total. That's when the airport was practically empty with only our flight as arrival! Reading some stories on the web I have read some people have arrived at 1 PM and didn't get to rest in their room until 11 PM! NOTE: not all hotels accept food delivery (mine doesn't). They only accept delivery packages (so you can buy packaged food items like instant noodles, snacks, packaged milk, but forget about ordering from your favorite restaurants everyday). You may be lucky to get one that does, but just be aware some don't. Also, the hotels will give you some necessities and items on your initial checked-in, but they won't give you more (at least mine doesn't) unless you buy it from them, and they only accept WeChat Pay for payment. Just be aware while some hotels may be very accepting, others, like mine, are not. Good luck, let me know if you have any other questions. |
Originally Posted by YariGuy
(Post 32748864)
This is different from the information I'm seeing from the government (in Chinese): ????????????????????????14????_????_?????
Basically says those entering mainland China from Macau don't need to quarantine for 14 days anymore if: 1) no travel overseas within last 14 days 2) have negative PCR test within 7 days 3) have the proper documents to enter China This is the same message that pops up when you try to buy a ticket to / from Macau. Before I attempt it I just wanted to see if anyone has actually tried it. So based on that it looks like if you have been in Mainland China for the last 14 days, and not been to the city of Qingdao, you may simply supply a negative COVID19 test 7 days from your departure flight time and you won't need to quarantine. Let me specifically answer your 1,2,3 1) If you have traveled to Qingdao, Hong Kong, or Taiwan, you will be quarantine for 14 days. 2) If you have traveled to Hong Kong, then the quarantine test needs to be within 24 hours (and quarantine for 14 days, ouch!) 3) Only if you're using Mainland Chinese, Hong Konger, or Taiwanese documentations. All foreigners (with few exceptions) are still banned from Macau. |
Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666
(Post 32769723)
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3) If you have residence in Shanghai, and you have younger children (other reasons are Seniors, Pregnant, Disabled), you can apply for "humanitarian considerations" - that means if the airport COVID test returns negative, you *may* be granted early release from the hotel and return home for quarantine (not free roaming, you are expected to quarantine yourself in your own home). Forms will be provided for you to fill out once you've checked-in (so don't ask the people at the airport for early release applications or approvals, they don't know nor will they care to help you). Be aware the Community Management Office of your residence must also approved this. Just to let you know the decision isn't the head doctor stationed at your hotel alone. 4) Or, if you don't qualify for "humanitarian considerations", but have residence in Shanghai, you can apply for "7+7", 7 days in the hotel and 7 days at home quarantine. ... |
港康碼 to start next month
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Things are getting crazier- China entry now also requires negative antibody test.
Also connecting flts require testing at connection point Auto translated announcement below Notice that personnel travelling to China on flights are required to perform new coronavirus nucleic acid testing and serum antibody detection double negative testing 2020/10/29。 In order to control the cross-border spread of the epidemic and protect the health and safety of passengers, Chinese and foreign passengers travelling to China on flights from the United States from 0:00 BST on November 6, 2020, must apply for and obtain a green health code or health declaration with the HS logo on the basis of the new coronavirus nucleic acid test negative certificate and serum-specific IgM antibody testing (hereinafter referred to as serum IgM antibody testing). The specific requirements are heeded as follows: First, testing requirements (1) For persons travelling from the United States to China on direct flights (without transit from a third country), one sampling and testing of nucleic acid and serum IgM antibodies shall be completed by the United States testing agency within 48 hours of boarding, and after obtaining proof that nucleic acid and antibody testing are negative, according to the nucleic acid testing site, according to the territorial division, apply to the Chinese Embassy and Consulate in the United States and obtain a green health code or health declaration with the HS logo. (2) For persons departing from the United States and travelling to China by transit from a third country, the first nucleic acid test and serum IgM antibody test shall be carried out in the United States, the second nucleic acid test and serum IgM antibody test shall be carried out in the transit country (the country of departure for direct flights to China), and the green health code or health declaration shall be obtained from the Chinese embassy in the United States and the last non-transit country airport of China, respectively. The first test conducted in the United States must be sampled, tested, and tested 48 hours before boarding a flight departing from the United States, with proof of nucleic acid testing and serum IgM antibody testing negative. The second test conducted in the transit country of the last non-direct flight to China must be completed within 48 hours of transit boarding, sampling, testing, nucleic acid testing, serum IgM antibody testing negative proof. (3) For those departing from a third country and travelling to China by transit through the United States, the main airports in the United States do not currently have testing conditions, and it is recommended that we choose to transfer to China from the United States carefully. If you do need to travel through the United States, be sure to know in advance about the temporary restrictions on the entry of foreigners in the United States.Get a U.S. visa, conduct a second nucleic acid test and serum IgM antibody test after entering the U.S., apply to a Chinese embassy or consulate in the U.S. and obtain a green health code or health statement with the HS logo. If you do not meet the boarding conditions to transit to the United States, you will face a very high risk of detention, or even be returned to the point of departure. Second, Chinese citizens apply for the tie HS logo of the green health code (1) After obtaining a negative certificate for nucleic acid testing and serum IgM antibody testing, Chinese citizens shall, as soon as possible, pass the international version of the international version of the epidemic prevention and health code, fill in the personal situation, and upload the proof that nucleic acid testing and serum IgM antibody testing are negative. (2) Chinese embassies and consulates in the United States will conduct an audit as soon as possible according to the nucleic acid testing site, according to the territorial division (the consuls and consulates in the United States, please click here) as soon as possible, and passengers who meet the requirements will receive a green health code with the HS logo. (3) The airline carrying out a direct flight to China will check and release the passengers according to the green health code with the HS logo issued by the Chinese embassy or consulate of the country where the flight departs. Please take the flight within the validity period of the health code and cooperate with the airline inspection. 3. Foreign citizens handle statements of health status (1) After obtaining proof that nucleic acid testing and serum IgM antibody testing are negative, foreign citizens shall, according to the nucleic acid testing place, divide according to the chinese embassy and consulate in the United States (the chinese embassy and consulate in the United States, please click here), as soon as possible according to the relevant embassy and consulate requirements, submit a valid passport information page, test negative certificate, the applicant has signed the health statement scanning. (2) The declaration of Health Statement submitted by a foreign citizen to the embassy or consulate in the United States (the territorial division, please click here) is as follows: Embassy in the U.S [email protected] (Temporary es charge of the Consulate General in Houston) Consulate General in New York: [email protected] Consulate General in San Francisco: [email protected] Consulate General in Los Angeles: Please click here to submit online Consulate General in Chicago: [email protected] (3) After the approval of the Chinese embassy or consulate, by e-mailSend a scanned copy of the certified health statement to the applicant. Applicants are required to print and carry with them. (4) The airline carrying out a direct flight to China shall verify the passengers on the basis of a statement of health issued by the Chinese embassy or consulate at the place of departure of the flight. Please take the flight within the validity period of the statement of health and cooperate with the airline at the time of the flight. Fourth, special reminders (a) Please read this notice carefully and make proper arrangements for your trip to China accordingly. If it is not possible to obtain nucleic acid testing and serum IgM antibody test results are negative proof, before the flight failed to hold a green health code with the HS logo or health statement, temporarily does not meet the conditions of the flight, need to re-arrange or adjust the trip. (2) In order to facilitate testing, chinese embassies and consulates in the United States have not designated or authorized testing institutions, please understand and confirm the testing methods, reporting contents, efficiency and charges from the testing institutions. (3) Non-direct flight passengers need to carry out two tests, in view of the main transit airport from the United States to China, many do not have testing conditions, it is recommended to carefully choose transit flights to China, transit passengers please check the local embassy and consulate website notice, pay attention to understand the transit countries involved in nucleic acid and serum IgM antibody testing related requirements and policy adjustment time, as well as entry requirements, if necessary, in advance to complete the entry visa, so as not to be able to effectively detect health in transit countries. It can even have consequences such as local obstruction and detention. (4) At present, U.S. international airports rarely have rapid detection capabilities, the U.S. domestic testing agencies are more dispersed, and the detection time is not guaranteed. Please carefully consider transferring to China through the United States and China. (5) This notice shall be implemented from 0:00 on November 6, 2020, and shall be reviewed in accordance with the original notification standard of September 4th for applications for health codes and health declarations submitted to embassies and consulates in the United States by 0:00 U.S. Time on November 6th. Since the time of implementation, the previous embassy and consulate in the United States on health codes, nucleic acid testing and other related notices are inconsistent with this notice, this notice shall prevail. (6) Embassies and consulates in the United States once again remind people to go to ChinaConsider the risk of the outbreak and travel costs, and strive to achieve non-essential, do not travel. After testing, reduce unnecessary travel, do a good job of personal protection, to avoid infection. Embassy in the United States Consulate General in New York Consulate General in San Francisco Consulate General in Los Angeles Consulate General in Chicago October 29, 2020 |
Originally Posted by azepine00
(Post 32783214)
Things are getting crazier- China entry now also requires negative antibody test.
Also connecting flts require testing at connection point Auto translated announcement below It's also nuts that the Chinese consulates appear to be running their entire operation out of Gmail. The free version, not even G-Suite. The PRC Ministry of Foreign Affairs can't pony up $6/user/month? |
Originally Posted by sincx
(Post 32783549)
That's nuts. I don't think there's a single lab in the US that can even get PCR results out in 2 days consistently, much less antibody results.
It's also nuts that the Chinese consulates appear to be running their entire operation out of Gmail. The free version, not even G-Suite. The PRC Ministry of Foreign Affairs can't pony up $6/user/month? |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 32784239)
this is basically China telling people, we don’t care if you’re a citizen or a resident. Don’t come back.
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Originally Posted by YariGuy
(Post 32784344)
Agreed. The way I read this is that, practically, it's not realistic to travel to China directly from the US. The requirement does not apply to other countries, so it means spending a couple of weeks somewhere else before traveling to China.
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A friend travelling from UK to China this weekend had the notification of the new policy in the international version of the China Health Code app. It wasn't immediately obvious whether it applied to the UK or not.
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This will make it virtually impossible for most Chinese citizens in US to return to China. While around the metro area of big cities in the US that can have 24/48-hour turnarounds, the problem is reservations are needed months ahead, or, if you're lucky enough to get one, they will tell you because of the transport uncertainty and lab constrain (they send them off to a lab by express services), your result is not guaranteed within that time period. If you live in suburban or lesser populated cities, unless your city has a COVID-lab, forget it, they need to send your sample to a lab far away and you'll be lucky to get 72-hour services.
Usually 72-hours is the "norm", by making it 48-hours, yes, it's a big hand signal that we don't want you back. So much for the promotion that "No matter where you are, the Chinese Government will always be there to help you" |
Isn't it obvious by now that the message to the overseas Chinese citizens from China is: Don't come home.
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Originally Posted by plunet
(Post 32784614)
A friend travelling from UK to China this weekend had the notification of the new policy in the international version of the China Health Code app. It wasn't immediately obvious whether it applied to the UK or not.
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Originally Posted by GinFizz
(Post 32784858)
Definitely applies to the UK - although at present the relevant text on the Chinese UK Embassy web-site is only in Chinese. Only applies from Nov 7th onwards for the UK so your friend is still good to go under the old requirements.
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Originally Posted by GinFizz
(Post 32784858)
Definitely applies to the UK - although at present the relevant text on the Chinese UK Embassy web-site is only in Chinese. Only applies from Nov 7th onwards for the UK so your friend is still good to go under the old requirements.
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