The event host should be able to sort out all the required official paperwork for you to get approved for travel to China.

AFAIK, there's no plan to reduce or eliminate quarantine. I would also like to remind you that many entry ports in China, including Guangzhou and Shanghai, require 14 days hotel Q + 7 days home Q or 21 days hotel Q if you don't have a local Chinese home address.

100% no hope https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...les-vaccinated

This poor German guy has spent at least 10 weeks in quarantine now...
That's like a fourth of a one year prison sentence

Some people are not getting to enjoy their quarantines in hospitals (only 3 days of the total though, based on the article):

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Ex9BHWFbDI__H3JUxrSrNQ

Maybe I won’t be taking any vaccine after all if it makes the experience somehow worse. Pretty amazing.

You're looking Y200 (plus the cost of going to/from hospitals with open time slots). This is a small price to pay for improving your odds of getting a green code when you come back.

From what it says in the article I'd bet the German guy got such poor treatment because he has seemingly been coming and going as he pleases (5 times in a year). They want to teach him a lesson.

Nonetheless it is a disturbing trend and not a good sign for those of us with hopes to leave and return sometime this year.

It sounds like it will improve my odds of getting anal prodded in a Chinese hospital.

Maybe, but I honestly doubt they even have a system in place to identify and execute that kind of punishment. The health codes between provinces don’t even communicate correctly, and the consulates SF and LA don’t even follow the same rules. Since all the testing and covid crap occurs before you cross immigration, I doubt anyone there even had a clue who he was. Plus it said some of his Chinese pals got the same anal treatments and hospital quarantine.

I could be wrong, it’s such a mystery box.

I'll give it a shot (pun intended). He got his Chinese vaccine after his previous entry to China and before the most recent one. Because of the vaccine he shows antibodies and regardless of vaccination status everyone with positive antibodies is bundled off to the hospital for "processing", new policy. No one making the policy considered the possibility of people testing positive because of vaccination or if they did, chose to ignore it.

What a glutton for punishment, FIVE TIMES in quarantine in China!

Does calling even work? I thought it was ONLY email correspondence nowadays.

Out of these three things:

1) Going from U.S. to China with Work Permit and VISA
2) Coming back to U.S. after some months in China
3) Returning to China after some months in the U.S.

What are the current procedures for 2) and 3)?

What’s the point of listing number 1?😂

Going to USA from China requires you to be eligible to enter and have a Covid test a few days before your flight. Once you’re in...freedom!

Returning to China will require the Covid tests within 48 hours of departure, the green code given by the consulate after your Covid test, a few Covid tests upon landing in China, a 2-3 week isolation style hotel quarantine and a few more Covid tests. After about 3-4weeks depending on the destination city..freedom!

The whole experience (flights, tests and quarantine) will likely run north of $10 grand.

A bit of clarity....
 

https://enapp.globaltimes.cn/#/article/1227489

Inbound travelers to Shanghai, no matter whether vaccinated or not, are all required to undergo quarantine for a number of days and receive COVID-19 nucleic acid tests, a source at Shanghai's health authority told the Global Times on Wednesday.

The source responded to an article published by the South China Morning Post on Tuesday, which quoted the Spanish consulate in Shanghai as saying some foreign citizens who have been inoculated with COVID-19 vaccines "are being put in hospital…for three or four days upon arrival in China."

The source said that as far as he knows, Shanghai's current entry policy on inbound visitors that are vaccinated "is the same" as those who have not been vaccinated.

"Although I'm not very clear about the policy details, I've never heard that one can be free from nucleic acid tests after being vaccinated," the source told the Global Times.

This comes from a so called "source" who admits he is not very clear of the policy details....

I've read from one of the consulate websites (can't remember which country). It said that vaccinated passengers had to attach their vaccination certificate when applying for the green code, as the antibody test result will be positive.

I'm not sure if this applies to all consulates and embassies.

One of my coworkers just arrived into shanghai and into quarantine yesterday. She remained unvaccinated just to avoid this kind of thing.

Another vaccinated coworker arrived into shanghai in May, but did not have any extra hurdles. He did test positive for IgM and attached his CDC card to the green code app. Otherwise no peep about it.

Sounds like the takeaway is that they don’t care about your lack of vaccine, and occasionally the stars will align and your positive antibody test upsets someone and you’re sent in for anal prodding.

Im trending heavily towards not getting vaccinated.

Cheers. I was specifically concerned about LEAVING and RE-ENTRING China, as I was under the impression that this could cause some issues.

By the way; the quarantine for Beijing is: 14+7+7; the last 7 days is at home under strict "do-not-leave-apartment" quarantine!

Yeah, interesting that the main complaint from the Spanish consulate was not addressed at all.
Their contentious issue wasn't the quarantine or the testing per se, but the forced admission to a hospital for 48 to 72 hours.

https://new.qq.com/omn/20210629/20210629A05P1E00.html
https://new.qq.com/rain/a/20210617A0BE4O00

This (29 June 2021) says 14 days quarantine and then 7 days home quarantine and then 7 days of health monitoring.
If you enter Beijing from another place, then you have to have 21 days of quarantine and then 7 days of health monitoring.
Health monitoring just means that you have to do some tests every so often, but can go outside.

Is there any port of entry with just 14 days quarantine?

(bolding mine)

Cheers.
For Chinese this is correct, for foreigners it is not.
That first article is for Overseas Chinese which I am not. The title of the article even says so: 海外华人!
As a foreigner coming back to Beijing, they specifically mention 14+7+7 several times, and it's a STRICTLY enforced "stay inside" for the whole last 7 days at my apartment. Water and food is brought to the front door.
Chinese could go outside, foreigners can NOT.

oh wow, any source on the foreigner info?

all the chinese news just assumes that one is chinese, and the western news that I read doesn't really report on this

What if you get infected and end up getting the anal probing anyway?

I doubt it. All quarantine policies have been based on origin of travel, not nationality. A random link from qq.com is not trustworthy.

Since the last 7 days at your apartment is likely enforced by your neighborhood committee. I’d guess it comes down to how much of the “foreigners are spreading Covid everywhere” propaganda your neighborhood committee ingested and how much they like you.

I'm currently going through the process, and it's stated on the numerous documents/forms that need to be signed.
Also conveyed by the agent that's doing some of the legwork in Beijing, in addition to the co-workers where I work.
They were quite explicit about this difference.

I suspect THAT is the main reason for the difference. To save themselves all the headache of worried village folk, they simply won't allow the foreigners outside for the 7 days.
I was pretty much one of the only foreigners in the whole area anyway, so it's going to be easy to enforce! :cool:

My lease expires TODAY, but I got a one day extension. During my quarantine period, I will get another apartment, and will need to rely upon friends like travelinmanS to check it out (I will pay for this service). I'm moving to a hotel near Laowai Jie tomorrow, and the Dallas flight is Tuesday.

Vaccines don’t prevent infection very well so I’m getting anal-yzed regardless in that case.

Could one just get an Airbnb or something for a week or two? Would that be sufficient for the process?

I am going back to China end of next week. I will be doing the following:

14 days in isolation at assigned Quarantine hotel in Shanghai
7 days at a hotel in Shanghai after being released from the 14-day isolated quarantine.
7 days at my service apartment in Beijing.

My question for those who may experienced the similar situation is the 7-day Shanghai hotel before returning to Beijing:

Will all the commercially operated Shanghai hotels allow me to stay with a green code after being cleared the 14-day isolated quarantine?

I have read mixed responses on various blogs, but will try here for Flyertalkers' experience.

Sure, but that again has nothing to do with nationality. If anything they'll probably base it on what you look like :D

Not a direct answer to your question but you may not even have a green code. When I left quarantine in Shanghai (at the time the requirement was simply 14 days) my QR code turned out to be red and I only found out when I got to the check-in desk at the next hotel.

Luckily they accepted my end-of-quarantine certificate and negative PCR result that you get just before you leave quarantine.

I then appealed through the AliPay app (apparently a false red code is a regular occurrence) and the code turned green the next morning.

I got my second dose of Sinopharm yesterday, and they also hooked me up with Klonopin (only y6.8 for 21 pills!). PCR test needs to wait until tomorrow.

I know two people who got hotels in shanghai for the last 7 days after the quarantine just last month. It shouldn’t be an issue. Of course it makes sense to call the hotel and let them know your plans. You’ll have plenty of free time in the first 14 days to do so.

The certificate of quarantine release and the final test paperwork are your most prized possession for the first 30 days in China. Western chain hotels will all accept this in shanghai.

Make sure you have a China SIM card waiting for you in quarantine though. I assume you already have one of those.

Can I ask where your getting your PCR test, for my trip back to the uk next month someone recommended that I go to one of the Parkway clinics...

Thanks for all the experiencing sharing and advice.
I called the hotel and was told a green code is necessary, but hopefully the paper certificate will do the job

I am a little concerned with the reported mandatory 72-hour hospital isolated quarantine as reported in the earlier post. I do have positive antibody test result.

why Klonopin?

I don't like to drink alcohol on planes unless I'm in F, which is not the case this time. Klonapin permits me to sleep like a rock, and doesn't dehydrate me.

I'm getting the PCR test at Huashan because it only costs around Y100 (maybe a long wait though). Parkway is Y1000, and Shanghai #1 is Y600. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

ETA: Shanghai #1 (VIP), is arguably worth the extra Y500, but its location is inconvenient (close to one hour in total travel time, both ways). Parkway at the Portman also sucks in this regard unless you are in (old) Jing'an.

Well，In this case I think it is an overkill. Klonapin is just too big of a gun just to get a good sleep. I am not a doctor tho.

I’m pretty sure you just need a basic NAT throat swab test for permission to fly back to the US. Who told you need PCR?