St Regis
W on the Bund
Hyatt on the Bund
Portman Ritz
Twelve Hengshan

To name a few. You can always call a hotel and ask them.

Hotels are supposed to check your entry stamp and many have a policy to wait 21 or 28 days from entry and some will quarantine you. Western 5* brands even have this.

I stayed at Hyatt on the Bund for ten days after 14-day's isolated quarantine . I called in advance to confirm and asked to provide the green code in the local health app as a pre-requisite.

The Hilton Garden Inn in Qingpu (near SHA) takes those who're on the +7 portion of their quarantine. It's the cheapest Hilton group hotel in Shanghai on points. If money is not an issue then all the major brand hotels are more than happy to take you (and your money).

After released from government 14-day quarantine, at the end of the day if you can't find a hotel to accept you, where can you go? Live in train station?

Another 7 days of government quarantine. But I think the working assumption is that everyone entering China now is an adult or accompanied by an adult who can confirm a hotel reservation in advance. So I don’t think they’re going to turn you loose to live in a van down by the river.

Do they limit your movement at all or keep track of you? My neighborhood committee seems to think its 7 days locked in the room with the only release for the 2 tests. I'd rather stay in a hotel if that's the case.

I always stay at Marriott/Renaissance in Shanghai (there are several of them). Occasionally stay at Ritz C. Hopefully at least some of them will take foreigners after initial 14-day quarantine period ends.

My fear is that zero tolerance mindset of the entire Chinese society would lead to longer government forced quarantine, e.g. 21 or even 28 days. This Fujian guy from Singapore who tested positive after 38 days of entry is not helping......

Shanghai is the only place I know of that does “community health monitoring” for the 3rd week meaning you’re free to roam the city but supposedly avoid large gatherings. And take a test day 21. Is your community in Shanghai?

All other cities lock you up for the 3rd week even if it’s your own home.

Like I said you don’t need to hope, just call them. Every hotel even within the same group has different policies.

My final destination was Beijing. During the 7 day (after the 14-day isolation), I was able to move around except I need to do PCR test on Day 17 and Day 21 and the tests results automatically showed up in the local health app. I was able to go to our office in Shanghai to work and go out to lunch/dinner just as business as usual.

I do understand if you stay in Putou district, there is stricter control in place that one cannot leave the hotel complex.

That's not allowed in Shanghai. You must switch to a "normal" hotel (or other accommodation) for the +7 portion of the quarantine.

There are no restrictions on your movement if you stay at a hotel in Shanghai. You're supposed to use common sense and avoid going to crowded places, to meet up with friends in restaurants/cafes/bars, etc.

Thanks. I called both of the bolded hotels (not interested in the others), and their room rates are pretty good. However, I'm hoping to get something for around Y500 per night that doesn't suck (i.e. no 7 Days Inns and no Minhang/Putuo/Jiading). I suppose I'd be okay with (former) Zhabei (good subway options up there). Advice appreciated.

I found this in a WeChat group about hotels so maybe you’ll find a cheaper one here

+7 hotels (as of mid august 2021)

🟢 Hotels in Shanghai that accept guests on the 7 day community health monitoring (yellow / red health code), right after the 14 day quarantine. You’ll need the release papers.

- 全季酒店长寿路店 (JI Hotel Changshou Road). The English name of the hotel brand is Ji Hotel (全季酒店), worth checking if others also accept +7 stays.
- Fenyang Garden Boutique Hotel
- Courtyard by Marriott Xujiahui
- Hyatt on the Bund
- Grand Kempinski Hotel
- Radisson Blu New World
- Kunlun (positive reviews)
- Jin Jiang Hotel, 59 Mao Ming South road.
- Campanile, 776 middle huaihai road (Huai hai zhong lu)
- Campanile at Jing An. Campanilechain of hotels generally seems to be OK in this aspect.
- City hotel at Shaanxi S Rd. have renovation works going on. Low price though.
- Jin Jiang Hotel Pusan Road 208, they do +7
- Grand Mercure Hongqiao (Changning)


🔴 Hotels that have declined a reservation for the 7 day health monitoring

- Casablanca Loft
- Okura Garden Hotel
- Hyatt place Changning district
- Jing ‘An Shangri-la
- Modena by Fraser Putuo Shanghai (serviced apartment)
- The Longement Shanghai(Changning)
- Equatorial Hotel

The Courtyard Xujiahui is a pretty good hotel. When I was in Shanghai, that’s the hotel we used for the visiting foreigners.

Many thanks for this list!

A few thoughts prior to digging deeper:
1. As I intimated in my previous post, Jing'an is a slightly dangerous label these days because it encompasses the Portman/Kunlun (former Hilton) as places within a stone's throw of Shanghai Station
-I could handle Changshou Road or Hanzhong Road for 7 nights, but further north is pressing it
2. Speaking strictly in terms of location, it's hard to go wrong with anything in Xuhui, including Xujiahui
3. Huangpu would certainly be fine if I was a tourist on a 2-3 night stay, but food/transportation options are poor if staying longer, and whether or not you find the Bund/Yuyuan to be desirable, the Westin, HOTB, W and Ren are actually in kind of bad neighborhoods
4. Ji and Kunlun have acceptable brand standards; Jinjiang, City, and Campanile are more hit or miss, though I will not write any off based on brand alone
5. The Peace (not on the list) actually is on the Bund. The problem is that you'd end up spending $150 per day on food, so even if the room rate was Y500 (it isn't), total cost is higher than almost everywhere else in Shanghai (well, setting aside Y2500+ properties)

I suppose anyone reading this thread knows this stuff, but please feel free to comment on or challenge my opinions. I am flexible

I've spent some nights there, it's very basic but not too shabby.

I love the view from this hotel, but I think location-wise it's suboptimal for a quarantine.

I always stay St Regis for the location, and if I want a view the W. Hyatt on the bund is kind of old and the light switches are annoying. It takes me 5 minutes to figure out how to turn the lights off. I don’t believe any of these hotels require you to quarantine in your room. You are free to roam the city mostly.

It looks like I can’t enter Shenzhen freely until Xiamen leaves my travel record (14 days) so looks like I’ll be galavanting around Shanghai for two weeks getting into trouble.

Wait, do I read correctly that you're not allowed to do that +7 at home now? [MENTION=4346]moondog[/MENTION] did you get rid of your lease?

You can definitely still do the +7 at home. In fact, one of my friends is doing home isolation this week and is free to pretty much do whatever he pleases as long has he remains in Shanghai, and avoids certain venues. The wildcard is that not all residential compounds are so lenient. Take travelinmanS as one example, and my colleague in Gubei as another. In the case of the latter, simply going to FamilyMart was a big deal. The guards themselves were the biggest obstacle, but they also placed his name on a well publicized "orange list" in order to encourage neighbors to keep an eye on him. As such, he kept his outside excursions to a minimum.

The guards and residents of my community have always been chill in the past, so doing my +7 there might be an okay option. That having been said, I think staying in a hotel that has a non-vigilante reputation with respect to these matters is probably a worthwhile pursuit.

If all goes according to plan, I will be released from the 14 day quarantine the day before my birthday, and I hope to get outside. I realize that I will presumably have an orange code that will prevent me from entering various shopping malls or my gym (Portman), but am happy to forego these privileges.

https://radiichina.com/students-arou...dies-in-china/

More expository journalism than anything but this is pretty crazy. Imagine doing a year of your degree and then you're in limbo for Spring 2020, Fall 2020, Spring 2021, Fall 2021, and goodness knows how long...

I don’t get why people are clamoring to get into China. Time to cut losses and move on. The 2019 China is nowhere close to coming back anytime soon.

​​​​​​Based on the article, which struck me as overly dramatic mind you, the students simply want to complete their degrees. That seems reasonable to me.

Based on the article you are right but GloballyServiced is also right. I left the other day from PVG and the whole experience tells me they plan on being shut for a long, long time. Shops completely closed, everyone with any contact with the planes coming from abroad is wearing the spacesuit, there were about 4 international flights leaving the entire afternoon/evening. They are all in on Zero Covid, they couldn’t care less about international students coming in, nor are they renewing passports of their own citizens effectively prohibiting their travel abroad.

Covid isn’t going anywhere, the government won’t accept even one case. Therefore every case is imported from abroad. This means it’s going to be years and years before anything remotely normal is back.

I think China's zero-COVID policy is simply unsustainable in the long term. Over the last several months, there have been prominent Chinese scholars that have said China will need to find a better balance and live with COVID so people can resume their normal lives. I think one of those scholars even wrote an opinion piece for the New York Times. I think after the Beijing Olympics and depending on the COVID situation in the US, there might be a chance for some sort of opening in 2022. China is probably looking for some sort of vaccine recognition from foreign countries and will work on some sort of path forward. Maybe 2023 is the year we'll be well on our way to normality?

Life is quite normal for the 99% that don't want/need to come or go.

Of course it’s not unreasonable but if you’re a smart human dealing with an unreasonable situation you need to be smart enough to move on and cut your losses.

In China you can still be tossed into quarantine, or have your children tossed into quarantine, without a moments notice. More and more people are noticing that this is ridiculous, not that it matters.

I, for once, want to go there to reunite with my wife.
Is it time for me to cut losses and move on?

According to the Chinese government, yes. Sorry.

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Especially ridiculous given the fact that Chinese students can now return to the US. In the long run, China is only hurting itself with this.

Someone else addresses the family aspect of this. For others, China still represents an asymmetric bet that is likely to remain highly lucrative for the foreseeable future. The IRR of our family office’s investments in the US is just shy of 25% (which I am very pleased with). The IRR of our Chinese investments is… 170%. It is just too easy to “win” in this country.

The modern China is not rational. I don’t even understand what the objective of the government is anymore. The Xindongfang/New Oriental situation is causing needless harm to millions of people… for the sake of rhetoric? I don’t think we can expect China to act rationally with the long-term in mind. For this reason, I think 2023 is extremely optimistic (unfortunately).

The situation was similar even in 2019. The police could come to your apartment, raid everything, and send you AND anyone with you to the police station for “random” drug tests. In 2019, this happened to my friend in Shanghai. The police picked him up 1 month after returning and even called him “Mandy boy” because he had spent the last year living in the Mandarin Oriental residences. They then did a hair test and deported him for weed he smoked in France… China has been like this for a while. I think Shanghai peaked when I was in high school (mid 2010s) and has only gone down since then from a gov intrusion perspective.

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I, for once, want to go there to reunite with my wife.

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Is she a looker? Fly her to you is the easier path

By the way I learned in my latest quarantine just how little the government values the life of individuals. I was set to be released after 14 days but due to a technical glitch my code would not turn green. All of the other passengers on my inbound flight left no problem. Mine stayed yellow until day 19 which is today and it finally turned green at 11am. Now I’m out in shanghai getting drunk like a normal person on a Tuesday.

Nobody at any level of government gave a rat’s anus about an extra 5 days of prison.

”go sit in your room until it turns green”

Right now I don't think China is in a rush to open up, as most Asian countries are still closed, and multi-nationals are still investing in China. Most Chinese don't see a need to travel abroad and don't want foreigners in. Once countries in Asia starts to open up to travel, then more and more Chinese may realize that they are excluded and are trapped in a bubble. I've read there have been some grumbles by international companies in HK about the travel restrictions. Once the regional HQs move to Singapore, the Execs and their families leave, and the factories close, then maybe China will rethink their strategy.

In China, sacrificing the right of a few is a small price to pay for the benefit of society. I hope all expats learn that sooner vs later.

This has already been happening for years and China does not care. Look at the 2019 Partner class for Goldman Sachs APAC. Hong Kong went from dominating the list to barely getting ANY new partners (think it was 2?). The Shanghai GS Partners make pennies compared to their HK counterparts. China doesn't care IMO.

The majority of the population agrees with the strict quarantine policies for the greater good.

When I got out of hotel quarantine in Shanghai, I didn't check my QR code colour until I was ready to check into the next (normal) hotel. It turned out that it was red. Luckily they still let me check in using my quarantine release certificate instead of the QR code. I then filed an appeal with the QR code app (it appears that getting a red/yellow code is a common occurrence after quarantine so there is an established channel for this with minimal human interactions) and the code turned green by the next morning.

Sorry I should have specified that this is a Fujian health code and leaving the hotel without a green one was non negotiable. They’re in a lockdown there over a few hundred cases.