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The 'Shanghai Hotel' in the Jing An district, Shanghai.
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Originally Posted by vanabb
(Post 34730072)
The 'Shanghai Hotel' in the Jing An district, Shanghai.
Anyway, it’s a dumb heartless policy in a country that is now full of such policies. |
Apparently the release document is useless, only the health QR code in the app is used.
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Originally Posted by vanabb
(Post 34730152)
Apparently the release document is useless, only the health QR code in the app is used.
The green code is to get you into whatever travel building (railway station/airport, etc.), the release papers is needed to check-in to your destination, as it's proof of recent Covid test, and confirms you have completed quarantine, and are "fit to travel". |
Originally Posted by vanabb
(Post 34729547)
Just FYI, two families in our group here were released after 7 days, Chinese, to spend the next 3 in isolation at home. The hotel said their health codes will turn 'green' in 'hour or 2'. But of course they did not. They are still in our WeChat quarantine group.
Now they are stuck on the sidewalk at night at the airport, not allowed to enter with a 'red' health code. Young kids too, outside now for hours, no one will help them. The health so-called leaders at the airport, the police, no one. Its unbelievable. There is no compassion or empathy here at all. This would make the national news in any western country. So be warned. Get that green code. Don't let them shove you out the door with promises. |
Originally Posted by boat stuck
(Post 34715472)
I suspect it's not just about optics--Xi is probably genuinely concerned about mRNA vaccines becoming another "chokehold" import that the US can leverage in anti-China containment strategy.
After what happened with semiconductors, China is never going to sole-source anything critical from a US-controlled or US-influenced supplier again as a matter of national security. If/when China develops a domestic mRNA vaccine, that's when China will clear Pfizer/BioNTech for import, since both sides know if there's a domestic alternative, the US government can't use the foreign vaccine as leverage.
Originally Posted by STS-134
(Post 34717735)
That's a pretty outlandish claim. Why would the US withhold better vaccines? So that Chinese people can get infected, then spread new variants around, and then have those variants come back into the US and cause another surge? Unlike semiconductors, a lack of vaccines in China has a risk to the public health of the people of the US. There is no motivation for the US to disallow import of vaccines.
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 34718426)
Bear in mind that the Fosun project was a licensing deal. After the initial technology transfer (which TMK was not especially extortionate), the Chinese/Taiwanese were supposed to run the operation and at considerable scale. I surmise that saving face was the main reason it didn't pan out. Basically, Chinese companies were making some progress toward developing their own mRNA vaccines. When it became clear that wasn't in the cards, instead of acknowledging failure, Papa Bear simply pretended all was good. I try my best to use diplomatic language in this forum, by the way.
Regarding the Chinese developing an mRNA vaccine, I have seen many products from both my company and other companies be blatantly ripped off under a new Chinese name after a licensing deal was signed with China. Most major companies now do the whole manufacturing process for their high value medicines outside of China since manufacturing in China requires you to reveal many trade secrets to the NMPA(the new name of the Chinese FDA). The fact the Fosun was even allowed to sign the licensing deal to manufacture means that Pfizer basically knows that they won't ever make any money in China. I can't predict how the CCP will act but I can tell you with 99.9% certainty that if a Chinese company "develops" an mRNA vaccine that has high efficacy, they simply copied the Pfizer vaccine. I reckon the CCP is simply trying to find a way to do so without being caught or losing face or waiting out until the rest of the world stops caring about vaccines or COVID so that they can take a victory lap with their "new" vaccine. Comparing the semiconductor industry to the pharma industry is ridiculous. Medicine is required for people's survival and any sort of restriction on it looks incredibly bad on the country or company that does so. I work with several products that my company(an American company that manufactures in the US) sells to US enemies including but not limited to Russia, Iran and Syria. |
Originally Posted by tauphi
(Post 34731559)
This happens all the time. They need to show their quarantine release certificate instead of the green (or red) QR code to access the airport.
They say that when the airport was closed another security team came upon them, and finally they were sorted out. Missed flights but able to book a hotel at least. |
Originally Posted by vanabb
(Post 34731978)
The did show the release certificate, of course, but no luck at all without the 'green' QR code. Too bad kids, the sidewalk for you!
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 34732009)
Did they escalate the matter appropriately and still get rebuffed? IME, once you get the police police (even low level) involved, things have a way of working out.
Originally Posted by vanabb
(Post 34731978)
The did show the release certificate, of course, but no luck at all without the 'green' QR code. Too bad kids, the sidewalk for you!
They say that when the airport was closed another security team came upon them, and finally they were sorted out. Missed flights but able to book a hotel at least. The hotel should have never let them out without it though; that fact remains. |
Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
(Post 34727209)
I am told that one can quarantine in Macau then fly into China wihtout needing to quarantine upon landing at a Chinese city.
I would like to verify if this informaiotn is true with experts in this threa. Anyone has any specific information and website link that I can look at? Thanks So you're thinking about coming back??? 👍 |
5+3 now and circuit breaker is dropped.
The latter is bigger news than the former… |
Originally Posted by gudugan
(Post 34749473)
5+3 now and circuit breaker is dropped.
The latter is bigger news than the former… |
Originally Posted by gudugan
(Post 34749473)
5+3 now and circuit breaker is dropped.
The latter is bigger news than the former… |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34749492)
5+3 is 8 days in a hotel for most people as opposed to 10 days now (7+3). Not gonna move the needle at all except for those who absolutely need to be back in China. Circuit breaker is big news but they need to increase flights. China is still backwards when it comes to all this stuff.
I think this is pretty significant [and WELCOME!] news, and will sway quite a few to come back. Not all, but many. |
Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 34749665)
Disagree here...(bolded part).
I think this is pretty significant [and WELCOME!] news, and will sway quite a few to come back. Not all, but many. For the rest of the world of business travelers/ tourists it’s still over a week in a hotel room to visit what has become one of the world’s most inhospitable countries for non residents. I just don’t see 8 days instead of 10 making a difference at all. If they go three like HK, then we may see more than a trickle here. |
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