State of TSA-PRE
Jun 20, 2022 | 11:03 am
#16
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 276
To quote myself from another thread:
What happens when there isnt a dedicated TSA PreCheck lane?
TSA PreCheck screening may still be an option through the standard screening lane when dedicated TSA PreCheck screening lanes are not available. If a TSA PreCheck lane is not available, please show your TSA PreCheck boarding pass and you may be able to keep 3-1-1 liquids and laptops in your bag, and shoes and light jackets on while accessing the standard screening lane. Eligible passengers should check with the TSA officer on duty.
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequentl...precheckr-lane
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequentl...precheckr-lane
Jun 20, 2022 | 3:19 pm
#17
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Bloomfield, MI, USA
Programs: DL Gold
Posts: 703
Aircrew gets priority. In some midwest airports that I frequent, there is only one line for security. I could care less that aircrew is prioritized as I almost never cut it so close that a couple of aircrew in front of me would make a difference in getting to the gate in a timely manner.
I have a tremendous amount of patience for the not so frequent flyers when I have to share a line. I occasionally have the impression that so many frequent flyers have an air of arrogance that makes them better than the not so frequent flyers. (Maybe fly private?) (I do not go ahead of those having difficulties unless there is a clear space to do so.)
I have a tremendous amount of patience for the not so frequent flyers when I have to share a line. I occasionally have the impression that so many frequent flyers have an air of arrogance that makes them better than the not so frequent flyers. (Maybe fly private?) (I do not go ahead of those having difficulties unless there is a clear space to do so.)
Jun 20, 2022 | 3:55 pm
#18
fomerly known as LandingGear (not Landing Gear)
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 870
Some parents traveling with kids are very organized and pack sensibly. Other families travel as if they had just unpacked at their destination. They take what appears to be six hours to find the items they want to have scanned (because the items are all over the place) and negotiate their will with their kids. Some parents behave as if all the rules of the public spaces are suspended once they have kids. Please, we have all been there. Rules still apply. It is okay if your kids don't act in the TSA line as if they are in your family room with all their favorite toys. It is okay. They will grow up just fine. These few minutes will not invalidate their self-worth.
Jun 20, 2022 | 5:33 pm
#20
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: RIC
Programs: Hilton Gold, IHG Platinum, Marriott Silver
Posts: 103
The frustration I have with TSA-Pre are the airports where they merge CLEAR passengers to the same agent as TSA-Pre passengers, and the CLEAR passengers are given priority. MDW is atrocious with this!
Jun 20, 2022 | 6:11 pm
#21
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: SYRiously?
Posts: 102
I haven't traveled outside of TSA-Pre hours in a while so my memory may be a bit off. I have experienced what you mention, but I have also experienced not having to remove laptops/tablets. I may have had to place something in the bin with my bag that alerted the screener that bag was Pre.
Jun 20, 2022 | 6:55 pm
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 15,357
CLEAR is just cuts to the front without having to pull out ID in most cases. There are a small number of checkpoints that do enough volumE that they can do separate CLEAR+Pre, CLEAR without PRE, Regular, and Pre without CLEAR.
Jun 21, 2022 | 11:49 am
#23
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: JFK LGA PBI BOI
Posts: 928
This was required at Terminal A at LGA, only room for two setas of machines but one line was always closed so Pre could keep their shoes on, and use the metal detector but TSA Staff kept repeating you had to remove your electronic devices and liquids because the "machine is not set to TSA Pre".
Jun 22, 2022 | 1:24 pm
#24
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Arizona, USA
Posts: 2,422
I think PreCheck has some distinct advantages, even if it's "PreCheck Light / Expedited Screening:"
- No body scanning unless it's a really bad day and they've unwisely decided that random alarms go to the AIT. I always seem to set off the "Advanced Imaging Technology" scanner, but I never set off a metal detector. The metal detector is much quicker and far less annoying.
- Shoes on. This saves a lot of time, and it's arguably less disgusting. Also, I don't trip as much.
- Zero chance of a "quad" or "SSSS" for flights within the USA or departing the USA. It doesn't work the other way around for some moronic reason.
- The PreCheck queue is much shorter most of the time.
- CLEAR gets an escort to the front of the PreCheck queue in most cases (definitely at T1, T2, and T4 at LAX, PHX, DEN in recent experience.)
- Unofficially or unannounced, no security interview on AA flights from Heathrow, supposedly to expand to other airports for PreCheck passengers. Yay.
- Somewhat expedited screening in Canada for Global Entry/NEXUS. I'm not sure about PreCheck as a standalone product.
- Unless it's "managed inclusion, (Arf! Arf!)" PreCheck passengers tend to be frequent flyers, and they're not as prone to fumbling through security. This is variable, but there aren't quite as many people wearing iron Viking helmets or underwear made of aluminium. (I've totally left my headphones around my neck like an idiot, so I will be refrain from judging those who make unwise choices before going through a metal detector.)
- Arguably less yelling and barking. Since PreCheck passengers tend to be veteran travellers, the staff are usually a tad quieter in the PreCheck lane. Not always, but most of the time. They can even be outgoing and friendly on a good day. I get the impression that the TSA staff like PreCheck. It's less work, less hassle, less touching of gross people, fewer rules to enforce.
Jun 24, 2022 | 7:19 am
#25
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: JFK LGA PBI BOI
Posts: 928
Even though I cannot use metal detectors in airports, I still use TSA Pre even with the added time of waiting for them to get a gender-specific agent and set up the body scanner or having to submit to a pat-down.
Jun 27, 2022 | 9:16 am
#26
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: WAS
Programs: enjoyed being warm spit for a few years on CO/UA but now nothing :(
Posts: 2,819
I am not sure where else this might go so posting here: i just received this email purportedly from TSA. I know, I know, it's phishing and not actually from TSA, but it sure as heck seems like something they could (should?) send!!!!
From: Transportation Security Administration <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:11 AM
To: [Section 107]
Subject: TSA: TSA PreCheck Renewal Remainder (Link)
Dear [Section107],
Your TAS PreCheck membership expired soon - you can now apply for your renewal up to 6 months in advance - the additional thime left to run will be credited to your new membership.
If yous have already applied for your renewal - please ignore this email.
If yous wish to renew your membership please follow the stepps below to submit your renewal application:
https://www.TSA-4-Life.gov/ai--ort-screening-------
Click the blue payment button marked "Proceed to Payment" and pay the service fee which covers the application review, checks and processing.
If all of your information is the same as when you applied 50 years ago you will not have to attend an interview. We will inform you of the next steps once your application has been submitted for background and security checks.
Thank you,
Transportation Security Admenistration
From: Transportation Security Administration <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:11 AM
To: [Section 107]
Subject: TSA: TSA PreCheck Renewal Remainder (Link)
Dear [Section107],
Your TAS PreCheck membership expired soon - you can now apply for your renewal up to 6 months in advance - the additional thime left to run will be credited to your new membership.
If yous have already applied for your renewal - please ignore this email.
If yous wish to renew your membership please follow the stepps below to submit your renewal application:
https://www.TSA-4-Life.gov/ai--ort-screening-------
Click the blue payment button marked "Proceed to Payment" and pay the service fee which covers the application review, checks and processing.
If all of your information is the same as when you applied 50 years ago you will not have to attend an interview. We will inform you of the next steps once your application has been submitted for background and security checks.
Thank you,
Transportation Security Admenistration
Jun 27, 2022 | 2:25 pm
#27
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 276
I am not sure where else this might go so posting here: i just received this email purportedly from TSA. I know, I know, it's phishing and not actually from TSA, but it sure as heck seems like something they could (should?) send!!!!
From: Transportation Security Administration <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:11 AM
To: [Section 107]
Subject: TSA: TSA PreCheck Renewal Remainder (Link)
Dear [Section107],
Your TAS PreCheck membership expired soon - you can now apply for your renewal up to 6 months in advance - the additional thime left to run will be credited to your new membership.
If yous have already applied for your renewal - please ignore this email.
If yous wish to renew your membership please follow the stepps below to submit your renewal application:
https://www.TSA-4-Life.gov/ai--ort-screening-------
Click the blue payment button marked "Proceed to Payment" and pay the service fee which covers the application review, checks and processing.
If all of your information is the same as when you applied 50 years ago you will not have to attend an interview. We will inform you of the next steps once your application has been submitted for background and security checks.
Thank you,
Transportation Security Admenistration
From: Transportation Security Administration <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:11 AM
To: [Section 107]
Subject: TSA: TSA PreCheck Renewal Remainder (Link)
Dear [Section107],
Your TAS PreCheck membership expired soon - you can now apply for your renewal up to 6 months in advance - the additional thime left to run will be credited to your new membership.
If yous have already applied for your renewal - please ignore this email.
If yous wish to renew your membership please follow the stepps below to submit your renewal application:
https://www.TSA-4-Life.gov/ai--ort-screening-------
Click the blue payment button marked "Proceed to Payment" and pay the service fee which covers the application review, checks and processing.
If all of your information is the same as when you applied 50 years ago you will not have to attend an interview. We will inform you of the next steps once your application has been submitted for background and security checks.
Thank you,
Transportation Security Admenistration
Jun 28, 2022 | 8:36 am
#28
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Under the Cone of Silence
Programs: UA Gold; AA Dirt; HH Diamond; National Emerald; CONTROL SecretAgent Platinum; KAOS EvilFlyer Gold
Posts: 1,679
I am not sure where else this might go so posting here: i just received this email purportedly from TSA. I know, I know, it's phishing and not actually from TSA, but it sure as heck seems like something they could (should?) send!!!!
From: Transportation Security Administration <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:11 AM
To: [Section 107]
Subject: TSA: TSA PreCheck Renewal Remainder (Link)
Dear [Section107],
Your TAS PreCheck membership expired soon - you can now apply for your renewal up to 6 months in advance - the additional thime left to run will be credited to your new membership.
If yous have already applied for your renewal - please ignore this email.
If yous wish to renew your membership please follow the stepps below to submit your renewal application:
https://www.TSA-4-Life.gov/ai--ort-screening-------
Click the blue payment button marked "Proceed to Payment" and pay the service fee which covers the application review, checks and processing.
If all of your information is the same as when you applied 50 years ago you will not have to attend an interview. We will inform you of the next steps once your application has been submitted for background and security checks.
Thank you,
Transportation Security Admenistration
From: Transportation Security Administration <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 11:11 AM
To: [Section 107]
Subject: TSA: TSA PreCheck Renewal Remainder (Link)
Dear [Section107],
Your TAS PreCheck membership expired soon - you can now apply for your renewal up to 6 months in advance - the additional thime left to run will be credited to your new membership.
If yous have already applied for your renewal - please ignore this email.
If yous wish to renew your membership please follow the stepps below to submit your renewal application:
https://www.TSA-4-Life.gov/ai--ort-screening-------
Click the blue payment button marked "Proceed to Payment" and pay the service fee which covers the application review, checks and processing.
If all of your information is the same as when you applied 50 years ago you will not have to attend an interview. We will inform you of the next steps once your application has been submitted for background and security checks.
Thank you,
Transportation Security Admenistration
Dec 19, 2022 | 5:42 pm
#29
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 3,251
Once again questioning the value of TSA-pre: last three times going through BWI on international flights (D/E Piers), TSA-pre was 'closed' (although Clear was still operating. Okay, didn't have to take my shoes off, but still needed laptops out, liquids out, coats off. Having paid my $$$ where is the product?
Dec 19, 2022 | 6:54 pm
#30
Moderator: Travel Safety/Security, Travel Tools, California, Los Angeles; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: oneword Emerald
Posts: 24,773