CBP Deploys Facial Recognition to Verify Identities of Departing Int'l Travelers
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Iris scans for this have been in the pilot phase for this even before 2017.
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What about the BOSS program? Any recent updates on that? It has been 3-4 years since it was announced.
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From the documents that I have been able to access, it appears that iris scans were part of the pilot for the land crossing before. I am not finding anything describing iris scans at the airport as part of the pilot. The documents also seem to indicate that the airport part of the pilot program was supposed to end no later than September of 2016.
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From the documents that I have been able to access, it appears that iris scans were part of the pilot for the land crossing before. I am not finding anything describing iris scans at the airport as part of the pilot. The documents also seem to indicate that the airport part of the pilot program was supposed to end no later than September of 2016.
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If/whenever this gets fully implemented nationwide, watch the cost for travel increase even further. The government will end up making passengers pay for this additional expense too.
Those mileage tickets using your frequent flyer miles/points are going to become more expensive because of this, as the amount of taxes/fees the government will charge will rise under cover of this being a sort of user fee too.
Those mileage tickets using your frequent flyer miles/points are going to become more expensive because of this, as the amount of taxes/fees the government will charge will rise under cover of this being a sort of user fee too.
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In the modern world, sadly, there does seem to be some justification for checking that a traveller is who they say they are. In fact, if you accept that additional security is justified for an aeroplane trip as opposed to a train trip (which is a whole different discussion) then why should there be any difference between an outgoing international flight and an incoming one? Hijackings can happen in either direction, and terrorists can start their journey at either end.
That's the rub, of course. I get constantly hacked off when going back into the UK that I have to queue up for a stupid bloody e-gate which takes twenty times as long to process me and my passport as a human would, particularly when half of the sodding things aren't working, and three immigration personnel, who could be doing something useful (such as - oh, I don't know, CHECKING PASSPORTS!), have to sit around at their desks getting bored out of their brains but need to be on standby in case there is a problem processing someone going through the gates.
I've never seen 3 officers on "standby" for people rejected by the e-gates - maximum 2, usually 1 (but if only 1, then there is usually someone else working the e-gates manually, by which I mean they review the semi-rejects on their screen)
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If/whenever this gets fully implemented nationwide, watch the cost for travel increase even further. The government will end up making passengers pay for this additional expense too.
Those mileage tickets using your frequent flyer miles/points are going to become more expensive because of this, as the amount of taxes/fees the government will charge will rise under cover of this being a sort of user fee too.
Those mileage tickets using your frequent flyer miles/points are going to become more expensive because of this, as the amount of taxes/fees the government will charge will rise under cover of this being a sort of user fee too.
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When Congress is trying to shove expensive stuff upon Americans via the budge "reconciliation" procedure, the legislation isn't allowed to increase the federal deficit after a period of 10 years. Having physical exit controls at all US airports would cost way more than $1,000,000,000 over ten years. And they'll make Americans and others to pay for it somehow when we are flying out of the US, assuming this fortress America mentality gets more thoroughly implemented.
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DHS wants to scan faces of Americans who travel internationally
It would be an expansion of a 2004 law meant to collect biometric data on foreign visitors.
So legality may be doubtful.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...leave-country/
They are doing the scanning already at 6 airports as pilot programs.
But law enforcement agencies have already been collecting biometric data on Americans, with as many as half of all Americans already in databases storing biometric data.
So legality may be doubtful.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...leave-country/
They are doing the scanning already at 6 airports as pilot programs.
But law enforcement agencies have already been collecting biometric data on Americans, with as many as half of all Americans already in databases storing biometric data.
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It would be an expansion of a 2004 law meant to collect biometric data on foreign visitors.
So legality may be doubtful.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...leave-country/
They are doing the scanning already at 6 airports as pilot programs.
But law enforcement agencies have already been collecting biometric data on Americans, with as many as half of all Americans already in databases storing biometric data.
So legality may be doubtful.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...leave-country/
They are doing the scanning already at 6 airports as pilot programs.
But law enforcement agencies have already been collecting biometric data on Americans, with as many as half of all Americans already in databases storing biometric data.
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It would be an expansion of a 2004 law meant to collect biometric data on foreign visitors.
So legality may be doubtful.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...leave-country/
They are doing the scanning already at 6 airports as pilot programs.
But law enforcement agencies have already been collecting biometric data on Americans, with as many as half of all Americans already in databases storing biometric data.
So legality may be doubtful.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...leave-country/
They are doing the scanning already at 6 airports as pilot programs.
But law enforcement agencies have already been collecting biometric data on Americans, with as many as half of all Americans already in databases storing biometric data.
With perhaps some rare exceptions that someone will bring up shortly, "Americans who travel internationally" have passports. With passport photos. Copies of which are almost certainly maintained by DHS or one of its associated agencies.
So DHS already has photos of all the Americans who travel internationally.
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All I have to say is that I would offer the government is a scan of a body part other than my face along with some humble suggestions about where, in their own bodies, they might insert a printed copy.
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With perhaps some rare exceptions that someone will bring up shortly, "Americans who travel internationally" have passports. With passport photos. Copies of which are almost certainly maintained by DHS or one of its associated agencies.
So DHS already has photos of all the Americans who travel internationally.
Depending on how it's implemented it could be nothing more than higher resolution cameras in existing secure areas and the only big change is how and for how long the data is stored.