CBP Deploys Facial Recognition to Verify Identities of Departing Int'l Travelers
Feb 1, 2019, 6:03 am
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Dec 3, 2019, 6:19 am
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Proposal to Require Biometric Photographs to Exit the US
This concerns me: The DHS regulatory agenda now includes a proposal to require everyone, even US citizens, to have biometric photographs taken in order to leave the US.
https://papersplease.org/wp/2019/12/...zen-travelers/
My concern regarding the rulemaking is that it may go the way that things went for the TSA body scanners...where a significant majority of the comments are against this; however, they act anyway and ignore those comments.
https://papersplease.org/wp/2019/12/...zen-travelers/
My concern regarding the rulemaking is that it may go the way that things went for the TSA body scanners...where a significant majority of the comments are against this; however, they act anyway and ignore those comments.
Dec 3, 2019, 3:16 pm
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I also declined to allow my photo to be taken when leaving ORD on Aer Lingus. The gate agent then made it sound like it would then be a huge pain for her to look at my passport manually, which of course did not provide any extra pain at all.
My concern is that if the new rule comes about, one will not have the ability to opt-out anymore.
My concern is that if the new rule comes about, one will not have the ability to opt-out anymore.
Dec 3, 2019, 7:49 pm
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Errors would affect hundreds of thousands of passengers a year.
https://viewfromthewing.com/us-gover...ngers-by-2021/
DHS has been testing a biometric departure system at several airports.
- The system matched photos of a passenger to someone else 0.03% of the time, and failed to match a passenger to the correct person 0.5% of the time which would mean problems for over half a million passengers a year.
- Of course that’s only when the government’s systems work, in fact “frequent system disruptions hindered photo capture and automated data exchange” for 15% of passengers.
Dec 5, 2019, 1:46 am
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TSA also wants to use FRT to control passenger movements. So it won’t just be CBP within DHS trying to use FRT to monitor and control people.
And FRT in practice can have substantial failure rates with false negative matching, more so for people who are ethnic minorities with higher melanin counts, and I doubt that DHS/CBP’s use of FRT is free of this kind of problem that exists with a lot of FRT systems used by commercial and government entities around the world.
And FRT in practice can have substantial failure rates with false negative matching, more so for people who are ethnic minorities with higher melanin counts, and I doubt that DHS/CBP’s use of FRT is free of this kind of problem that exists with a lot of FRT systems used by commercial and government entities around the world.
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Dec 6, 2019, 9:21 am
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Dec 6, 2019, 9:32 am
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DHS/CBP's retreat on the planned rule change is welcome, but DHS already knows how to gets its way in the main by making opting-out less likely and more inconvenient for the opting-out individual. So while this is a small victory for its critics, it's far from being the end of DHS/CBP expanding use of FRT.
Apr 5, 2021, 10:46 pm
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Does TSA still take photos of departing international passengers?
Pre-COVID, I recall seeing TSA folks set up roving booths to take photos of departing international passengers. During the pandemic, has anyone seen TSA still engaging in this behavior? They continually claim to be short-staffed but somehow manage to find personnel for gimmicks like this. Seeing this riles me up if I waited in a long security line that could have used extra staffing.
Apr 9, 2021, 2:34 am
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Pre-COVID, I recall seeing TSA folks set up roving booths to take photos of departing international passengers. During the pandemic, has anyone seen TSA still engaging in this behavior? They continually claim to be short-staffed but somehow manage to find personnel for gimmicks like this. Seeing this riles me up if I waited in a long security line that could have used extra staffing.
Of the the biometric exit stuff I've encountered during this pandemic at US airports, it's the CBP and/or airline slowing me down to try to get me to do the biometric departure/boarding.
Apr 22, 2021, 12:39 pm
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JFK T4 is still using biometric boarding and my experience is that it reduces the contact as the gate agent doesn't have to manipulate your passport / boarding pass. It's always a very smooth process.
Apr 22, 2021, 6:56 pm
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Last week, before my flight to Costa Rica from ATL, the delta agent wanted to use facial recognition for boarding. They let me opt-out but I was concerned as the gate agent did not seem happy that I did this and claimed that next time I would not be able to do so.
Apr 22, 2021, 7:10 pm
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But, it is all irrelevant. All of those gates have full camera coverage anyway. Doesn't matter whether you use the FR boarding process or not if your concern is that your image is matched to your name to your travel.