Long TSA Lines [merged threads]
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I think I know the answer already, but I'm hoping there are some airline industry "insiders" here on TS&S who can comment.
Neffy and his propaganda machine (PV and the Twitter sites) are blaming "increased passenger volume" for the long lines. Like many of you, I think this claim is complete BS, especially since I have never seen this assertion sourced.
All I know is that I'm flying in smaller aircraft with less choices to get from Point A to Point B. This isn't news. My observation is that downsizing happened after many people got fed up with the TSA and either stopped flying or flew considerably less. It got worse when the economy went in the tank in about 2008. I really can't believe that the amount of people entering a TSA checkpoint and getting on an airplane has increased at all. Fares don't appear to be going down, either.
Is there real data out there to support or refute the TSA's claim???
Neffy and his propaganda machine (PV and the Twitter sites) are blaming "increased passenger volume" for the long lines. Like many of you, I think this claim is complete BS, especially since I have never seen this assertion sourced.
All I know is that I'm flying in smaller aircraft with less choices to get from Point A to Point B. This isn't news. My observation is that downsizing happened after many people got fed up with the TSA and either stopped flying or flew considerably less. It got worse when the economy went in the tank in about 2008. I really can't believe that the amount of people entering a TSA checkpoint and getting on an airplane has increased at all. Fares don't appear to be going down, either.
Is there real data out there to support or refute the TSA's claim???
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I can only speak for RDU/GSO, and we have not lost a significant amount of staffing (the normal attrition rate has been essentially static for a number of years), and our passenger flow has increased both at GSO and RDU. I do not have a specific percentage or hard count for you, but it has been busier this year than last, and spring break has been a pretty heavy increase this year. Apparently more kids/families are going places this year.
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This is a nationwide phenomenon at all airports served by TSA - understaffing combined with lack of training. It's been all over the nightly news lately.
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I can only speak for RDU/GSO, and we have not lost a significant amount of staffing (the normal attrition rate has been essentially static for a number of years), and our passenger flow has increased both at GSO and RDU. I do not have a specific percentage or hard count for you, but it has been busier this year than last, and spring break has been a pretty heavy increase this year. Apparently more kids/families are going places this year.
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No, the leadership is responsible.
The management of for-profit airport businesses manage to staff adequately during busy and slow times.
The management of TSA chooses to not make it a priority.
The management of for-profit airport businesses manage to staff adequately during busy and slow times.
The management of TSA chooses to not make it a priority.
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GSO, we have not had an appreciable increase in wait times that I have seen. Of course, we are also smaller.
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Found this link for air traffic at LAX.
http://www.lawa.org/LAXStatistics.aspx
The latest statistic for this year is Jan. 2016. If you click on that you can see that both domestic and international flights are up over last year.
http://www.lawa.org/LAXStatistics.aspx
The latest statistic for this year is Jan. 2016. If you click on that you can see that both domestic and international flights are up over last year.
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Long lines, who is at fault?
Many articles recently about long lines and TSA screening. There seems to be a disconnect somewhere. As TSA staffing levels are determined and regulated by Congress. Congress has cut the number of screeners, knowing that passenger rates are increasing.
Is it time to hold Congress responsible for creating the mess of long lines?
Is it time to hold Congress responsible for creating the mess of long lines?
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nMany articles recently about long lines and TSA screening. There seems to be a disconnect somewhere. As TSA staffing levels are determined and regulated by Congress. Congress has cut the number of screeners, knowing that passenger rates are increasing.
Is it time to hold Congress responsible for creating the mess of long lines?
Is it time to hold Congress responsible for creating the mess of long lines?
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If you complain at the airport, or complain on TSA's Twitter account, they'll tell you to contact your Congressman.
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Except...unless the slowdowns are being artificially manufactured, suddenly hiring 4000 new screeners who have to go to the academy for weeks of training - in short, who won't be actually on the floor and either working or standing around playing with their cellphones and distracting and talking to their co-workers - a bunch of new hires aren't going to get into the system fast enough to relieve the congestion for months.
Putting all available staff to work and opening all available lanes would ease the congestion, but that's not Neffenger's game.
Meanwhile, IMHO, we are all at greatly increased risk as the TSA-engineered congestion continues.
A question I would like an honest TSO to answer honestly: I've recently heard a TSO say that at some airports, LTSOs and STSOs never do 'hands on' work. They are supposed to stand around the checkpoint and watch what's going on (which they usually do by standing aside and chatting to other LTSOs and STSOs in between checking their cellphones).
In short, the 'understaffing' is partly the result of LTSOs and STSOs not actually doing anything to process pax and bags.
I'd also like to know the ratio of LTSO/STSOs to TSOs, since I have seen more than one checkpoint personally (and seen many more photos and videos) where it's clear that the number of non-working TSOs greatly exceeds the number of TSOs actually processing pax.
Putting all available staff to work and opening all available lanes would ease the congestion, but that's not Neffenger's game.
Meanwhile, IMHO, we are all at greatly increased risk as the TSA-engineered congestion continues.
A question I would like an honest TSO to answer honestly: I've recently heard a TSO say that at some airports, LTSOs and STSOs never do 'hands on' work. They are supposed to stand around the checkpoint and watch what's going on (which they usually do by standing aside and chatting to other LTSOs and STSOs in between checking their cellphones).
In short, the 'understaffing' is partly the result of LTSOs and STSOs not actually doing anything to process pax and bags.
I'd also like to know the ratio of LTSO/STSOs to TSOs, since I have seen more than one checkpoint personally (and seen many more photos and videos) where it's clear that the number of non-working TSOs greatly exceeds the number of TSOs actually processing pax.
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I think we should push
ur Congresscritters to force the TSA clerks to not have access to their cellphones while on-duty. That would allow them to focus on what they're being paid for and what they are supposed to be doing.
ur Congresscritters to force the TSA clerks to not have access to their cellphones while on-duty. That would allow them to focus on what they're being paid for and what they are supposed to be doing.


