I don't see any need to "add LEOs back to the checkpoints". Having a LEO standing at each c/p like a bank security guard is a waste of resources; roving patrols cover much more area, require fewer LEOs, and above all, a roving patrol doesn't lull a LEO into inattentiveness from boredom, as standing a post is wont to do.

Airports are small places. Roving patrols work - as evidenced by the LAX incident - because airport terminals are small enough that no roving LEO is ever going to be more than a minute from the scene of an incident (if they are, that's a staffing and coverage issue that the local department needs to address). Yes, I know, a minute can be an awfully long time in the midst of a terrorist attack, but considering that the vast majority of the American people are content to live with police response times anywhere from 5 to 30 minutes, I think one minute or less in an airport terminal is reasonable, since active shooter scenarios are so rare in airports but other crimes like assault and theft are not.

I have to say that if local police had a response time of 30 minutes *and* restricted possession/ownership of firearms and/or other weapons, I'd move somewhere else.

Fast.

Indeed, as expected.

My first encounters with former FBI LEOs was rather amusing since they "investigated" even easy things like you'd expect of keystone cop characters.

The farther out into rural areas you get, the longer the response times. In big cities the response time is seldom less than 10 minutes, but as you get into the suburbs it stretches to 20, and beyond the suburbs, where you might have a local sherriff's department with only a few deputies covering a rather large swath of farm country... well, fortunately, places like that tend have far lower crime rates and higher per-capita firearm ownership, so it balances out.

My point exactly. Current rules and regulations turn every airport into Chicago.

I say we give TSA screeners toy pop guns to go with their toy badges.

OK, but no high capacity magazines. Ammunition 3.4 ounces or less, and it must be holstered in a quart baggie to prevent the dihydrogen monoxide fuel from turning into a high explosive.

Constitutionally, there is nothing saying that only sworn law enforcement can do a probable cause search.

It would depend on the TSA's policies, which I am not familiar with.

Constitutionally, there is no administrative search.

LEO at the C/P can be right there if there is any issues....on top of watching for TSA/Passenger issues during the screening process that folks on here moan about all the time..... BTDT.



Who said anything about getting rid of roving patrols/car patrols/bike patrols/Segway patrols....?

I'm merely saying is that they should add LEOs at the C/Ps that don't have them (as some airports do/others don't) and keep doing what they are doing elsewhere......ie roving patrols/car patrols/bike patrols/Segway patrols......

Best news conference folks in the world.....and they will take credit for stuff they didn't even do.....as long as it makes them look good....

At large airports that would be a large number of extra cops that get paid to pretty much to sit on their behinds. I don't think the threat level calls for such a waste of resources.

Feel free to take that up with the Supreme Court and see how far you get.

Please find it for me. You won't. It was made up. A carve out. Yes, I am an originalist. Call me every kind of idiot you want. I can take it.

There may be a need for it to be in The Constitution. There is a process for that. You can find it in The Constitution. Try Article 5 if you are lazy and don't want to read the whole thing.

Until that is done, no matter what the court says, it is not in The Constitution. We may have to order our lives based on a court ruling that it is in The Constitution. That does not make it exist there. It only makes it exist in law as determined by the court. BTW, The Constitution does not give them the authority to legislate, but they do that anyway, and our legislators permit the usurpation of its enumerated powers.

We either have a constitution that is our basic law or we do not. I believe that until it is amended out of existence that nothing has occurred to make it inoperative. Well, nothing except courts, legislators and executives acting outside of their constitutional authority.

Practically, it may no longer exist. Many of us obviously do not care that it does not. I am not one of them.

It happened after 9-11....and right before/after the Iraq war started...... No one seemed to have issues then.

If you don't think the Airports can afford it, then you are foolish. Most (if not all) Airports run in the black.

Hell, MCI Aviation Dept. was the only Dept for the City of KC that actually made money behind the Park and Rec Dept and they (sadly) are now running in the red every year......

It wouldn't cost much to do it and if done properly, you could rotate folks out and/or make it an OT duty at 4 hour whacks and no one have issues....