TSA Checking Databases long before people fly: NYT
Oct 22, 2013, 8:40 pm
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Oct 23, 2013, 1:10 am
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Oct 23, 2013, 2:17 am
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This isn't news to me.
The TSA propaganda team is lying .... yet again.
Indeed. And the ACA healthcare/insurance info may end up being used too -- oh wait, it already had been used. 
The TSA propaganda team is lying .... yet again.
Oct 23, 2013, 5:35 am
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Oct 23, 2013, 5:46 am
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The Europeans are all laughing that we spend so much time and money on grandma and little kids instead of looking more closely at those who might be the real risks.
In Europe I barely get a glance but here at podunk airports they take apart all my luggage. We checked in at a small airport last summer and missed out flight even though we checked in the required hour ahead of time. The line was backed up all the way down the airport and they took apart ALL our bags even though my husband works in a job that requires a clearance.
As a result we missed our connecting flight overseas and had to pay a change fee.
In Europe I barely get a glance but here at podunk airports they take apart all my luggage. We checked in at a small airport last summer and missed out flight even though we checked in the required hour ahead of time. The line was backed up all the way down the airport and they took apart ALL our bags even though my husband works in a job that requires a clearance.
As a result we missed our connecting flight overseas and had to pay a change fee.
For just over a year, I helped my daughter run a cafe/ gift shop in a very small resort airport. I was well known to all of the TSA personnel and some of them were our customers. Even so, when my husband and I left on a trip last March, they went through my carry-on and practically strip searched my 85 year old husband whose arm was still in a sling following rotator cuff surgery. Two of them took him into a private room and made him remove most of his clothes. I accompanied him into that room so I saw what lengths they went to. Disgusting behavior on their part. Their excuse, they "mustn't discriminate." Not only that, but one day, one of the TSA people came into the shop and insisted on putting me through a wipe off test for explosive residue!!!
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Oct 23, 2013, 6:41 am
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At US airports, the chances of even those "scary" "foreign" "men" being "real risks" to my flights is just about the same as the Scandinavian grandmothers and Chilean toddler-age relatives being "real risks" to my flights.
Originally Posted by brandsberg
In Europe I barely get a glance but here at podunk airports they take apart all my luggage. We checked in at a small airport last summer and missed out flight even though we checked in the required hour ahead of time. The line was backed up all the way down the airport and they took apart ALL our bags even though my husband works in a job that requires a clearance.
As a result we missed our connecting flight overseas and had to pay a change fee.
As a result we missed our connecting flight overseas and had to pay a change fee.
The TSA doesn't know how to reliably interdict contraband WEIs despite its huge budget -- in large part that is because the TSA is way too obsessed with identity checks, boarding pass checks, background checks and "profiling" of passengers in the main.
The TSA should never have been allowed to try to do anything more than the bare minimum to reliably interdict contraband WEIs. Instead we have a TSA that is doing too much and unable to do anything very well beside maintaining a bloated budget.
Oct 23, 2013, 7:04 am
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http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/TSA...116497568.html
Oct 23, 2013, 7:43 am
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The probabilistic risk of any individual being a threat, regardless of characteristics, is so close to zero that trying to compare the risks, even to say "just about the same" is completely meaningless. But it's also silly to deny that orders of magnitude more "scary" "foreign" (pick a country) "men" have attempted to attack aircraft than Chilean toddlers. Both numbers are so low that any system at all is going to be overwhelmed by false positives.
Oct 23, 2013, 7:45 am
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Although... they're not very good at that, either.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/TSA...116497568.html
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/TSA...116497568.html
Oct 23, 2013, 8:01 am
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Oh, wait - they've had a dozen years to get good at something, and they're not even good at lying about what they're good at.
Oct 23, 2013, 8:49 am
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Oct 23, 2013, 3:53 pm
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All this is made even worse because the TSA let slip just recently in certain court documents that:
"“As of mid-2011, terrorist threat groups present in the Homeland are not known to be actively plotting against civil aviation targets or airports; instead, their focus is on fundraising, recruiting, and propagandizing . . . there have been no attempted domestic hijackings of any kind in the 12 years since 9/11.”
"“As of mid-2011, terrorist threat groups present in the Homeland are not known to be actively plotting against civil aviation targets or airports; instead, their focus is on fundraising, recruiting, and propagandizing . . . there have been no attempted domestic hijackings of any kind in the 12 years since 9/11.”
Oct 23, 2013, 4:04 pm
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However, it comes directly from the Administrative Record, which is referenced at least 4 times in the course of that brief.
The quoted section is the only instance of these 4 where the Administrative Record is directly quoted, as indicated by the quotation marks in the unredacted sealed brief as filed with the Court.
The TSA did actually state "terrorist threat groups present in the Homeland are not known to be actively plotting against civil aviation targets or airports".
Oct 24, 2013, 6:32 am
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