ACLU quesitioning enhanced patdowns
Aug 24, 2010, 12:52 pm
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We spent $36 million of the puffers, only to have them put into storage. We've spent almost 90$ million on the NoS's, but TSOs are still patting down pax after they exit the NoS. Now, TSA is doing "enhanced" patdowns. Why don't they just admit the NoS program is a cluster .... , and can the machines? It's clear that they don't do anything..
Sounds like some real grumblings on the new pat down methods! I hope that the continued press changes the "new layer of security"
Aug 24, 2010, 2:06 pm
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So, since I live in LAS and travel for work nearly every week, and cannot remove shoes, have had skin cancer already, and travel with a CPAP, I would guess that I am going to get this enhanced groping.
Can any females report if they have experienced this at the entrance to the "D" gates? How invasive is it?
When I call for a LEO due to the groping of my "private area", what is the likely outcome?
I am ABSOLUTELY not going to just follow quietly. The only time someone is allowed to touch me there is if they buy me dinner or if they are a medical doctor.
As a rape survivor this will simply be not acceptable! The back of the hand is already tramatic enough! If some wanna be cop tries to grab me, I will probably come unglued.
Needless to say, I am very nervous about this...
Can any females report if they have experienced this at the entrance to the "D" gates? How invasive is it?
When I call for a LEO due to the groping of my "private area", what is the likely outcome?
I am ABSOLUTELY not going to just follow quietly. The only time someone is allowed to touch me there is if they buy me dinner or if they are a medical doctor.
As a rape survivor this will simply be not acceptable! The back of the hand is already tramatic enough! If some wanna be cop tries to grab me, I will probably come unglued.
Needless to say, I am very nervous about this...
I wear two pairs of thickly padded bike shorts: one is my normal size, worn the normal way; the other is one size larger and I wear it back to front, so that my front side is protected as well. A pair of knee-length capri pants with a drawstring waist (tied as tight as I can) to protect against reaching from the top. Below-the-knee A-line skirt over that.
On top, I wear a molded-cup bra a size larger than me. A pair of foam pushup pads on the outer side, a pair of rubber pushup pads on the inner side, and a pair of silicone "enhancer" pads over the front/top. The molded-cup keeps things smooth on the outside. Tank top, not-too-tight shirt over that.
Hair down, no makeup, no jewelry except my ring. Nice laptop case and good purse in a cloth tote (just slip the laptop out). Basically as dumpy, middle-age and dull as possible. Nothing that suggests confident, powerful businesswoman - it just seems to bring out the worst in them.
Seems to help a little bit, YMMV. But it's still sad, especially when it keeps women (or men) who are recovering from having been sexually abused or assaulted from achieving their personal or professional potential. They have a particular right to expect their government to protect them, not harass them.
Last edited by neko; Aug 24, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Aug 24, 2010, 2:09 pm
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If I am subjected to this, I plan on going the route of either
1) oh yes, touch me there, oh yeah, that feels good, oh, you are great, like one poster on this board wrote
2) NO- BAD TOUCH! MOMMY!
I guess they may try to retaliate with saying I'm interfering with the screening process....
1) oh yes, touch me there, oh yeah, that feels good, oh, you are great, like one poster on this board wrote
2) NO- BAD TOUCH! MOMMY!
I guess they may try to retaliate with saying I'm interfering with the screening process....
Aug 24, 2010, 7:58 pm
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Aug 24, 2010, 8:20 pm
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Aug 26, 2010, 10:21 am
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Aug 26, 2010, 1:58 pm
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Aug 26, 2010, 1:59 pm
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Aug 26, 2010, 5:42 pm
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I suggest that making an official complaint to the airline you flew - everytime - might be the most effective. The airlines' claim of injury or potential injury to their business carries a lot of weight. As an example of their leverage, it's what got lighters allowed: Thousands of complaints (partly a campaign, actually) which the airlines consolidated into an appeal to TSA/DHS. In that case, they even prevailed over safety considerations.
Aug 26, 2010, 6:13 pm
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I suggest that making an official complaint to the airline you flew - everytime - might be the most effective. The airlines' claim of injury or potential injury to their business carries a lot of weight. As an example of their leverage, it's what got lighters allowed: Thousands of complaints (partly a campaign, actually) which the airlines consolidated into an appeal to TSA/DHS. In that case, they even prevailed over safety considerations.
If I flick a Bic and drop it, the lighter is out before it hits the ground. If I flare an entire book of matches and drop it... not so much. So the whole idea that lighters were more dangerous than matches floats like a lead balloon.