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Confirmed: Chase Sapphire PREFERRED rewards refresh, 2021
Aug 24, 2021, 11:09 am
#151
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Charleston, SC
Programs: SPG/Marriot Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 412
Do we know for sure if Chase is automatically sending new cards to existing card holders? I don't even have a contactless version of the CSP, but I plan to start using it more now that it gets me 3x on dining. I don't want to order one if they will send one anyway.
Aug 28, 2021, 10:10 am
#152
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: WN A+ CP, UA 1MM/*A Gold, Mar LT Tit, IHG Plat, HH Dia
Posts: 6,284
CSR seems like an awesome card nowadays if you book a lot of Airbnb/VRBO/Expedia/Priceline/independent hotels, use a lot of Uber/Lyft, redeem via the travel portal or pay yourself back, and eat out at a lot of restaurants. That type of customer is very different than the original customer the card seemed to attract (all about points, lounges, etc), but no cards right now are really providing anything more than 2x on “general travel” like CSR is, and very few offer a 1.5 cent cash back easily.
Aug 31, 2021, 8:06 am
#154
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DTW
Programs: Alaska, Delta, Southwest
Posts: 1,663
If you've purchased from them before, how were they coded then? My understanding is anything coded "grocery" and purchased online should qualify. I just checked HelloFresh and Misfits Market (which we get every week) and they should count - we shall see.
Aug 31, 2021, 8:15 am
#155
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: flyover country
Posts: 2,435
If you're referring to something that appears on the statement itself, please tell me more.
Aug 31, 2021, 8:28 am
#156
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DTW
Programs: Alaska, Delta, Southwest
Posts: 1,663
I assume you are referring to the category that appears on the line with the charge when viewed on the web site. If so, then maybe. A purchase from The Crumpet Shop in Seattle showed as Restaurant, but earned 1x on SR. Chase said it was a bakery, which is apparently a subset of restaurant that does not qualify as dining. The takeaway is that the determining factor is a code that does not appear on the list of charges on the web site.
If you're referring to something that appears on the statement itself, please tell me more.
If you're referring to something that appears on the statement itself, please tell me more.
Aug 31, 2021, 8:50 am
#157
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: flyover country
Posts: 2,435
Well, thanks for that. I'll visit the Chase web site later and I'll "click the transaction" this time. I don't recall seeing the further breakdown that you mention. It sounds like there is more information available than I had assumed. Thanks.
Aug 31, 2021, 9:39 am
#158
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DTW
Programs: Alaska, Delta, Southwest
Posts: 1,663
Just an FYI, I was on the mobile app, but the same info should be on the desktop site.
Aug 31, 2021, 2:36 pm
#159
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
I have not ordered from them. Or in Wild Fork case they have physical stores - while I have browsed their stores (one is very near home) I have not purchased from them yet. Now I start looking at some specialty meats as well as fishes, I think about the implication how this new CSP earning category would work. For example, ordering from Fulton Fish Market from NYC, how would it be coded?
Aug 31, 2021, 3:09 pm
#160
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: flyover country
Posts: 2,435
Sep 1, 2021, 12:13 pm
#161
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 16
The CSP is now the cheapest card that offers 3x back on dining with no FTF. For that reason alone, it will probably be used physically more often than not.
Technically, it actually has the highest year-round dining earning out of Chase's UR portfolio as it earns 3.1x in practice.
Technically, it actually has the highest year-round dining earning out of Chase's UR portfolio as it earns 3.1x in practice.
Sep 2, 2021, 7:17 am
#162
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Manhattan, Palm Beach Island, San Francisco, Boston, & Hong Kong
Programs: Lifetime United Global Services, Delta Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Ambassador, & Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,165
CSP on dining = 3.75% back through PYB or chase travel portal (or more with transfer partners)
Costco = 3% CB
There are other 3% CB dining cards with no FTF, AF, or requirement to buy a $60/year Costco membership like the C1 SavorOne. But the CSP outearns all of them.
For me, UR is strictly a Hyatt machine and I value Hyatt points (with lack of liquidity, willingness to pay, etc factored in) conservatively at 1.5 cents each.
Sep 3, 2021, 4:23 pm
#164
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 40
Hi all - thank you advance for the help! In light of the recent changes to the two Sapphire cards, I am planning on canceling my CSR and applying for the CSP, as its a more attractive card now and to get the 100k sign up bonus.
But I did have two questions:
But I did have two questions:
- I had CSP a long time ago (first signed up in 2012 and got the sign up bonus), but downgraded to Chase Freedom Unlimited around ~Q4 2016 when CSR came out. Does the fact that I already had CSP in the past make me ineligible for the 100k bonus that's available now?
- I read the fine print for CSP, and it just says not available to: 1) current holders of a Sapphire card (which I'm planning to cancel); and 2) previous Sapphire card holders that got a sign up bonus within the last 48 months (which I'm well past). So I think I'd be eligible for the CSP sign up bonus this time around. But wanted to confirm with the experts on the forum.
- FYI no issues with the 5/24 rule either.
- Once I've canceled my CSR, how long should I wait before applying for the CSP (given "no current holders of a Sapphire card" fine print)?
Sep 4, 2021, 6:50 am
#165
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,857
Hi all - thank you advance for the help! In light of the recent changes to the two Sapphire cards, I am planning on canceling my CSR and applying for the CSP, as its a more attractive card now and to get the 100k sign up bonus.
But I did have two questions:
But I did have two questions:
- I had CSP a long time ago (first signed up in 2012 and got the sign up bonus), but downgraded to Chase Freedom Unlimited around ~Q4 2016 when CSR came out. Does the fact that I already had CSP in the past make me ineligible for the 100k bonus that's available now?
- I read the fine print for CSP, and it just says not available to: 1) current holders of a Sapphire card (which I'm planning to cancel); and 2) previous Sapphire card holders that got a sign up bonus within the last 48 months (which I'm well past). So I think I'd be eligible for the CSP sign up bonus this time around. But wanted to confirm with the experts on the forum.
- FYI no issues with the 5/24 rule either.
- Once I've canceled my CSR, how long should I wait before applying for the CSP (given "no current holders of a Sapphire card" fine print)?
2. 30 days if you cancel, 4 days if you downgrade to one of the Freedoms.