Aug 11, 2016, 1:33 pm
Last edit by: RedSun
Ritz-Carlton Rewards Visa Infinite (closed to new applications)
All card offers are dead as of 7/26/18.
Information still available on the Chase SITE.
The previous version of this card was discussed HERE.
(Expired) New Card Bonus ($4,000 spending): Two free night certificates good at any Ritz Carlton (Marriott) properties up to 60,000 points (possible to book any SPG properties later)
(old: at any tier 1-4 Ritz Carlton Hotel after $4k spend).
current offer (dead): https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/rit...n/naepredirect
Things qualifying/not qualifying under $300 annual travel credit
one member wrote: AA is now showing gift cards as "giftcard" rather than general purchase if the csr looks closely. Last year it worked for me, yesterday it did not and csr told me that's why. However, later the same day I also requested the credit by Secure Message (for "baggage fees) and it was approved. Very YMMV now but still doable. 2/10/2017
Southwest Airlines GCs work fairly easily. I've generally bought them for $150 and said they're excess baggage fees.
Frequent Miler has a collection of data points of what has worked in the past. Link
All card offers are dead as of 7/26/18.
Information still available on the Chase SITE.
The previous version of this card was discussed HERE.
(Expired) New Card Bonus ($4,000 spending): Two free night certificates good at any Ritz Carlton (Marriott) properties up to 60,000 points (possible to book any SPG properties later)
(old: at any tier 1-4 Ritz Carlton Hotel after $4k spend).
current offer (dead): https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/rit...n/naepredirect
- Annual fee of $450 NOT waived.
- 6 points per dollar at Marriott properties, including SPGs and Ritz-Carltons. (same as all Chase & AmEx Marriott cards)
- 3 points per dollar at restaurants, car rental companies and airline tickets purchased directly from airlines
- 2 points per dollar on all other purchases (same as all Chase & AmEx Marriott cards)
- Annual (anniversary) free night award good at any Marriott (including Ritz) property up to 50,000 MRs.
- Automatic Marriott Gold Status.
- Marriott Platinum Status after $75,000 card spending in a card-member year.
$100 companion airfare discount booked through Visa Infinite website.- $100 statement credit for Global Entry after the Global Entry program application fee is charged to an eligible card.
- $300 Annual (calendar) Travel Credit "Only the following types of non-ticket purchases qualify for this offer: airline lounge day pass, or towards a yearly lounge membership of your choice; airline seat upgrades; airline baggage fees; in-flight Internet/entertainment; in-flight meals."
- Three (3) Ritz Carlton Club Level upgrade certificates each year for up to 7 nights each stay. The stays must be paid stays, excluding point redemption and award night.
- Troon Rewards and PRIVÉ ACCESS golf benefits
- $100 credit for qualifying dining, spa or other hotel recreational activities. Use the credit with any paid stay at The Ritz-Carlton of two nights or more OR get a $100 hotel credit per stay at all Marriott luxury properties. Advance reservations are required. Valid only on non-discounted rates. Cannot be combined with any packages, discounts, negotiated corporate or group rates or point-redemption bookings.
Things qualifying/not qualifying under $300 annual travel credit
one member wrote: AA is now showing gift cards as "giftcard" rather than general purchase if the csr looks closely. Last year it worked for me, yesterday it did not and csr told me that's why. However, later the same day I also requested the credit by Secure Message (for "baggage fees) and it was approved. Very YMMV now but still doable. 2/10/2017
Southwest Airlines GCs work fairly easily. I've generally bought them for $150 and said they're excess baggage fees.
Frequent Miler has a collection of data points of what has worked in the past. Link
Ritz-Carlton Visa Infinite - closed for applications 7.26.2018 (2016-2021)
Apr 26, 2018, 8:11 pm
#1681
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: New York, NY, USA
Programs: UA 1K - 2.1MM, HH LT Diamond, IHG Diamond, Bonvoy LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob
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Apr 26, 2018, 8:36 pm
#1683
Join Date: May 2012
Location: HNL
Programs: AS MVPG, HA Plat
Posts: 1,268
Apr 26, 2018, 8:38 pm
#1684
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
So we thinking Ritz Tier 1-4 nights become Category 7 certs? Tier 4 RC = 60,000 pts, which is the same as Cat 7 under the new Starriott.
Apr 27, 2018, 6:07 am
#1686
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: New York, NY, USA
Programs: UA 1K - 2.1MM, HH LT Diamond, IHG Diamond, Bonvoy LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 766
Apr 27, 2018, 6:55 am
#1687
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You have answered the question here:
It is the fact that few people can get the card that makes it elite, the features are immaterial.
Marriott may well permit Chase to continue to offer the Ritz Carlton card, and it may have a few RC features to distinguish it from the American Express $450 card, but it will never be Chase's premier product.
Any issuer would be foolish to use a co-branded card as their top product, because they don't have full control. Chase is not an innovative institution, but they are very much about control. They resent VISA, but they don't quite have the courage to start their own network, as Citi did in the 1980s.
That's a feature of all VISA Signature, Infinite; MasterCard World, and Elite cards.
It is the fact that few people can get the card that makes it elite, the features are immaterial.
Marriott may well permit Chase to continue to offer the Ritz Carlton card, and it may have a few RC features to distinguish it from the American Express $450 card, but it will never be Chase's premier product.
Any issuer would be foolish to use a co-branded card as their top product, because they don't have full control. Chase is not an innovative institution, but they are very much about control. They resent VISA, but they don't quite have the courage to start their own network, as Citi did in the 1980s.
That's a feature of all VISA Signature, Infinite; MasterCard World, and Elite cards.
Last edited by mia; Apr 27, 2018 at 7:00 am
Apr 27, 2018, 8:38 am
#1688
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It is the fact that few people can get the card that makes it elite, the features are immaterial.
Marriott may well permit Chase to continue to offer the Ritz Carlton card, and it may have a few RC features to distinguish it from the American Express $450 card, but it will never be Chase's premier product.
Marriott may well permit Chase to continue to offer the Ritz Carlton card, and it may have a few RC features to distinguish it from the American Express $450 card, but it will never be Chase's premier product.
I think both JPM-R and RC are handled by the "Executive line". I'm not sure about CSR since I get both RC and CSR. So hard to tell. But since so many people have the CSR, this makes it a common card.
Apr 27, 2018, 10:18 am
#1689
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Is JPM the same as the Ritz Card? I get comparing the Ritz Card to other cards in this thread, but not JPM to CSR. If JPM is RITZ, I like the United Club membership.
The JPM Reserve is nothing more than a shiny metal CSR.
https://www.chase.com/card-benefits/jpmreserve/travel
Tell me what benefits the JPM Reserve has, that is lacking with CSR?
https://www.chase.com/card-benefits/jpmreserve/travel
Tell me what benefits the JPM Reserve has, that is lacking with CSR?
Apr 27, 2018, 11:38 am
#1690
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No. The JP Morgan Reserve card is discussed in this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chas...palladium.html
It is a variant of the Chase Sapphire Reserve available only to JP Morgan private bank clients.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chas...palladium.html
It is a variant of the Chase Sapphire Reserve available only to JP Morgan private bank clients.
Apr 27, 2018, 11:45 am
#1691
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No. The JP Morgan Reserve card is discussed in this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chas...palladium.html
It is a variant of the Chase Sapphire Reserve available only to JP Morgan private bank clients.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chas...palladium.html
It is a variant of the Chase Sapphire Reserve available only to JP Morgan private bank clients.
Apr 27, 2018, 5:44 pm
#1692
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: DL DM, UA MM, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium, Hertz Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 97
For the exact same annual fee of $450, you get everything the CSR has PLUS United Club. Everyone on here loves the Amex Plat access to Delta Club. Even for the occasional traveler, that's a great benefit with the only complaint being the lack of guest privileges. Meanwhile, JPMR UC is full membership which allows guests.
Not sure how you can crack on the JPMR as having little value and for prestige only when the UC access alone makes it fundamentally more valuable than the CSR. At the same cost.
So unless your argument is the CSR has little value, the question is, why would anyone that has access to the JPMR bother with the CSR?
Apr 27, 2018, 8:06 pm
#1693
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: New York, NY, USA
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Apr 28, 2018, 8:59 am
#1694
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So you're just ignoring the United Club membership?
For the exact same annual fee of $450, you get everything the CSR has PLUS United Club. Everyone on here loves the Amex Plat access to Delta Club. Even for the occasional traveler, that's a great benefit with the only complaint being the lack of guest privileges. Meanwhile, JPMR UC is full membership which allows guests.
Not sure how you can crack on the JPMR as having little value and for prestige only when the UC access alone makes it fundamentally more valuable than the CSR. At the same cost.
So unless your argument is the CSR has little value, the question is, why would anyone that has access to the JPMR bother with the CSR?
For the exact same annual fee of $450, you get everything the CSR has PLUS United Club. Everyone on here loves the Amex Plat access to Delta Club. Even for the occasional traveler, that's a great benefit with the only complaint being the lack of guest privileges. Meanwhile, JPMR UC is full membership which allows guests.
Not sure how you can crack on the JPMR as having little value and for prestige only when the UC access alone makes it fundamentally more valuable than the CSR. At the same cost.
So unless your argument is the CSR has little value, the question is, why would anyone that has access to the JPMR bother with the CSR?
The original discussion is the positioning of the RC card within Chase. RC is from JPM and is through the "Executive Line", just like the JPMR. To me, RC is more "Elite" than the CSR, which is serviced from the Sapphire Line. Mia brought up the JPMR as the "Elite" card. I agree. But where the RC is positioned? Clearly not a lot folks would want to pay $500 to $1,500 per night to check in RC on own expenses. Without using the RC benefits, the RC card is not much above break-even.
Apr 28, 2018, 11:44 am
#1695
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Bothell, WA
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Ritz Carlton VISA Airfare Discount (Login Error)
I'm trying to log on and I get a "The credentials supplied could not be validated" error message. Has anyone experienced this?
Thanks!
Thanks!