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Old Apr 22, 2020, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by freed0m
how about this one?
Well you have to be in MO/CN/TW first.

- Macau stopped taking visitors except HK/CN/TW w.e.f. 24 Mar (guest workers/visa holders OK)
- CN stopped taking any non-citizens - even those with multi-year residence permits - w.e.f. 27 Mar
- TW stopped taking any non-residents 19 Mar (ARC holders OK)

So pray tell how a visitor to “these parts” with no residency status in any be admitted to HK?
(in fact, if a foreign national Chinese resident exited China for HK, he or she cannot be expected to be readmitted again)
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by tentseller
Thanks for sharing Percy.

Finally found official entry process post immigration:

Government enhances testing arrangements for asymptomatic inbound travellers
Seems people arriving on the afternoon flights will be bussed to the Regal Oriental in Kowloon City for an overnight stay. Imagine, being next door to a culinary paradise in old skool Hong Kong, and not being able to partake. That would be the most frustrating part.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Pickles
Seems people arriving on the afternoon flights will be bussed to the Regal Oriental in Kowloon City for an overnight stay. Imagine, being next door to a culinary paradise in old skool Hong Kong, and not being able to partake. That would be the most frustrating part.
I was about to suggest installing Deliveroo or Foodpanda and have someone perform a contactless delivery; however, I read in the Govt PR they will provide the food so no such creativity allowed
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by freed0m
how about this one?
This is playing with words by the HK government, to not embarrass China: 99% of Mainland Chinese who would want to go to Hongkong for visiting/tourism only get a 6/7 day visa. As this is shorter than the compulsory quarantine period of 14 days, they will be rejected at the HK border. There are a few exceptions of chinese who get longer visas, but these numbers are very low.

You can check the number of arrivals at the ID website: https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/message_...stat_menu.html


Yesterday for example, there have been 992 arrivals of HK residents, 65 of Mainland Chinese, and 33 Visitors other than chinese.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 9:47 pm
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Originally Posted by mucaari
99% of Mainland Chinese who would want to go to Hongkong for visiting/tourism only get a 6/7 day visa
Just to clarify for non-HK readers: the difference between 7 day visitors and “transit passengers” (banned) and total border closure as demanded by HA employee protest is that we’re still admitting visa holders (non-permanent residents) from the Mainland, such as those holding student, family, work, long-term business or other long-term visa holders.

I don’t see them as a health risk really, 14-day quarantine is a sufficient deterrent to stop them from commuting, which is the real risk until pandemic over.

Not to mention we cannot close the border to permanent residents without breaking the Basic Law or requiring an Interpretation.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
Just to clarify for non-HK readers: the difference between 7 day visitors and “transit passengers” (banned) and total border closure as demanded by HA employee protest is that we’re still admitting visa holders (non-permanent residents) from the Mainland, such as those holding student, family, work, long-term business or other long-term visa holders.

I don’t see them as a health risk really, 14-day quarantine is a sufficient deterrent to stop them from commuting, which is the real risk until pandemic over.

Not to mention we cannot close the border to permanent residents without breaking the Basic Law or requiring an Interpretation.
Generally you are right, but those 65 Chinese arriving yesterday as by the ID statistic are not non-permanent residents, they are visitors. So probably those exceptions mentioned somewhere (children of HK residents, ppl officially being involved in corona-aid) or just ppl that had to be allowed in due to pressure from the commies (as I'd guess from what has been happening in recent days)...
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 10:28 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
Well you have to be in MO/CN/TW first.

- Macau stopped taking visitors except HK/CN/TW w.e.f. 24 Mar (guest workers/visa holders OK)
- CN stopped taking any non-citizens - even those with multi-year residence permits - w.e.f. 27 Mar
- TW stopped taking any non-residents 19 Mar (ARC holders OK)

So pray tell how a visitor to “these parts” with no residency status in any be admitted to HK?
(in fact, if a foreign national Chinese resident exited China for HK, he or she cannot be expected to be readmitted again)
The mainland Chinese can travel to Hong Kong. That's my point. They are the first ones being denied entry. Now they are the only ones being allowed entry to Hong Kong.

how irony!
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by mucaari
Generally you are right, but those 65 Chinese arriving yesterday as by the ID statistic are not non-permanent residents, they are visitors. So probably those exceptions mentioned somewhere (children of HK residents, ppl officially being involved in corona-aid) or just ppl that had to be allowed in due to pressure from the commies (as I'd guess from what has been happening in recent days)...
I'm not sure. 8-180 day visa holders (>180 days will be counted under HK Residents as they would be required to register for HKID)?
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 10:51 pm
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Originally Posted by freed0m
The mainland Chinese can travel to Hong Kong. That's my point. They are the first ones being denied entry. Now they are the only ones being allowed entry to Hong Kong.

how irony!
Think I misread your earlier post - I read it as foreigners in Mainland. You meant Mainland residents, of course.

Logical from my accountant's mindset - they were the first to have the outbreak, they're the first to come out of it. First In First Out.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
Think I misread your earlier post - I read it as foreigners in Mainland. You meant Mainland residents, of course.

Logical from my accountant's mindset - they were the first to have the outbreak, they're the first to come out of it. First In First Out.
First In First Out, may not suit Italy or Spain, in this case, I am afraid.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 11:49 pm
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Originally Posted by mucaari
This is playing with words by the HK government, to not embarrass China: 99% of Mainland Chinese who would want to go to Hongkong for visiting/tourism only get a 6/7 day visa. As this is shorter than the compulsory quarantine period of 14 days, they will be rejected at the HK border. There are a few exceptions of chinese who get longer visas, but these numbers are very low.

You can check the number of arrivals at the ID website: https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/message_...stat_menu.html


Yesterday for example, there have been 992 arrivals of HK residents, 65 of Mainland Chinese, and 33 Visitors other than chinese.
This is my read on it as well... The announcement says one thing.. but practically none of the mainland Chinese "visitors" will be allowed in because of the condition of their visa will not last longer than the mandatory quarantine period.. The remaining ones will have a long term visa which essentially means they are a resident of some sort... The other visitors who are not mainland Chinese would have to have been in China, macau or Taiwan long enough already...
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by washeelers747
Patiently waiting for CX to announce June/July schedule changes (aka cancellations) since I have 2 PE tickets in June/July and flights involve two of hottest current Coronavirus spots (Singapore and New York City) so no chance to fly.
CX seems to be zeroing out the June EU-HKG flights, right now......
Or, at least, the first 2 weeks of June, and skipping the high-fare buckets.
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 7:15 am
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Apparently Australia will keep its borders shut for another 3 to 4 months:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...t-three-months

That is bad news for CX.
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by brunos
Apparently Australia will keep its borders shut for another 3 to 4 months:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...t-three-months

That is bad news for CX.
OK at least when they make it official my trip to Oz in August can be cancelled officially.
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Old Apr 23, 2020, 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by Cambo
CX seems to be zeroing out the June EU-HKG flights, right now......
Or, at least, the first 2 weeks of June, and skipping the high-fare buckets.
Umm...not quite:
Code:
11JUNLONHKG‡.CX«                                                
 01JUN  MON   LON/Z‡1     HKG/‡7                                
 1CX  354 J9 C0 D0 P0 I0 LGWHKG 1220 0705‡1 359 BL 0 X4 DCA /E  
          U0 W9 R0 E0 T0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0       
 2CX  238 J9 C9 D9 P9 I9 LHRHKG 1700 1155‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          U0 W9 R9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0       
 3CX  250 F0 A0 Z0 J9 C9 LHRHKG 1820 1325‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          D9 P9 I9 U0 W9 R9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 
          O0                                                    
 4CX  256 J9 C9 D9 P9 I9 LHRHKG 2010 1515‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          U0 W9 R9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0       
 5CX  254 F3 A3 Z0 J9 C9 LHRHKG 2215 1715‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          D9 P9 I9 U0 W9 R9 E7 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 
          O0                                                    
NO MORE CX.                                                     
1‡1«                                                            
 02JUN  TUE   LON/Z‡1     HKG/‡7                                
 1CX  354 J9 C0 D0 P0 I0 LGWHKG 1225 0705‡1 359 BL 0 X4 DCA /E  
          U0 W9 R0 E0 T0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0       
 2CX  252 F3 A3 Z0 J9 C9 LHRHKG 1220 0705‡1 77W BL 0 DCA /E     
          D9 P9 I9 U0 W9 R9 E9 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 
          O9                                                    
 3CX  238 J9 C9 D9 P9 I9 LHRHKG 1700 1155‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          U3 W9 R9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0       
 4CX  250 F3 A3 Z1 J9 C9 LHRHKG 1820 1325‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          D9 P9 I9 U1 W9 R9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 
          O0                                                    
 5CX  256 J9 C9 D9 P9 I9 LHRHKG 2010 1515‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          U4 W9 R9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0       
 6CX  254 F6 A6 Z1 J9 C9 LHRHKG 2215 1715‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          D9 P9 I9 U2 W9 R9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 
          O0                                                    
NO MORE CX.                                                     
1‡1«                                                            
 03JUN  WED   LON/Z‡1     HKG/‡7                                
 1CX  354 J9 C0 D0 P0 I0 LGWHKG 1225 0705‡1 359 BL 0 X4 DCA /E  
          U0 W9 R0 E0 T0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0       
 2CX  252 F6 A6 Z1 J9 C9 LHRHKG 1220 0705‡1 77W BL 0 DCA /E     
          D9 P9 I9 U4 W9 R9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 
          O9                                                    
 3CX  250 F6 A6 Z1 J9 C9 LHRHKG 1820 1325‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          D9 P9 I9 U4 W9 R9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 
          O0                                                    
 4CX  256 J9 C9 D9 P9 I9 LHRHKG 2010 1515‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          U2 W9 R9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0       
 5CX  254 F0 A0 Z0 J9 C9 LHRHKG 2215 1715‡1 77W BD 0 DCA /E     
          D9 P9 I9 U4 W9 R9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 
          O0
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