In Club World, those in "A" seats or the "EF" pairs would have to climb over someone else's feet, wouldn't they? The SQ seats have a footrest area that is tucked into the previous seat, restricting the amount of space in which you could rest your feet on. You'll see what I mean at 1:01 in this video.

I have flown in both...for BA, I think it's good enough to qualify, at least in my own view, as "direct aisle access". it's very much different from the traditional J seats where you need to climb over a whole person when they're sleeping with the seat reclined. now even if the person is sleeping, climbing over the feet is very doable and easy...

for SQ, from my experience I don't see how it's more restricted in terms of feet room vs. the CX's narrow ottoman...it's not that on CX's there's huge feet room anyway. it might be something negative when considered on its own, but, when compared to CX's new J, I personally don't see this as something more negative...

I think BA and CX biz class in leagues apart, BA is way better in terms of space, comfort and price between HKG and LHR to be specific

To get BA direct acces int aisle in C class you need to be fast off the mark and have a travel agent like the one I have, she books the flights between HKG and LHR for me in upper deck on BA with direct access from window seat, 62A or K everytime for me

I saw an FA walking out of the curtains in front of the J section and i immediately stood up and walked away hehe ;)

Crocodile: If I may, you mentioned that the regional J seats were also in the herringbone configuration . Pardon my ignorance but are the new J seats in the regional 747 the same as in the 773? In particular, I was interested in what J seats were like on the HKG-SIN route which I understand is not 3-class . Thanks to you and anyone else who might know.

XFed2001, there is only one 747-400 configuration: 74A. CX sometimes deploy these aircraft to regional destinations to maximize aircraft utilization. There is no "regional 747".

Both the 74A and 777-300ER (77A) have the herringbone configuration in J. Due to the number of 77As CX currently have, the 77A operates less regional flights than the 74A. HKG-SIN is served by a mix of regional aircraft and occasionally a 74A. If you're seeing 773 for your flight, then it is going to be operated by the 777-300 (773).

As kchika has already mentioned, I have used the new J to regional destinations, but they are the long-haul J. This is because there are quite a few "EQV" aircraft in the schedule for flights to TPE and MNL, so sometimes get lucky with aircraft such as the 74A. I assume some of these are planes that do the overnight to/from Europe.

Scary seat.:eek:

We just did F on a 777 and I took the chance to pop into an empty business class seat.
Those seats are incredibly claustrophobic - and where is your right arm supposed to go? The partitions are scary.
My shoulders did not fit well into that space at all - I felt like a tinned sardine!

The older slant seat was much better for sitting, at least!

Exactly !!!!
I got a shocked how many seats there were.
I tried sitting down and my shoulders couldnt fit in as im in a hurry :td:

I flew both JFK-HKG and HKG-BKK on the 777 in F, both times, the FAs commented to me that before the economic meltdown, they J business has already started to decline b/c of the new J seats. They told me people picked SQ or TG and even UA over the new J seats. Most stated they are simply too tight. On the HKG-BKK flight, the crew told me they had lost so much business that the airline was looking at serious trouble, the F FA estimated that J loads were off more than 70% and F more than 80%. He was really concerned for his job and the airline's future. He thought the new J seats were really killing them in terms of getting repeat business. I know for one, I opt to fly SQ over CX to avoid the seats when flying J.

9W does not have "flip-over" seats. The set-up is very similar to CX, though they give you what looks like a duvet but is supposed to go on top of the bed once reclined as a kind of mattress pad (though I did use it as a duvet once). They also serve Dom in J ^

I think the financial crisis is having a greater effect. However, as J seems wide open on many routes, I wonder if the seat issue is a contributing factor?

Good to hear they're reviewing J. Herringbone is nice for aisle access. But the current CX configuration is too narrow for a business class seat. Every time I moved my arm, I bumped the partition with my elbow. The lack of space really gives the cabin a feedlot feel.

Before everyone gets too excited about CX reviewing the J seats, note that it is just a change to a "reverse" herringbone configuration, meaning there will still be a partition seperating customers. Take a look at the US Airways forum and the new Envoy seats, and I think CX might be heading in that direction. The seats do look not that much better than the current ones, it still looks prety cramped. Also, as always, more room in J probably means less seat count which reduces award availability.