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Mr Market May 31, 2025 3:27 am


Originally Posted by djsflynn (Post 37115364)

i got a flight scheduled early next year on CX888 in J, am i mistaken as the flight type i see on my booking is still a A350-900... really hope this can be on the new Aria seats!

QRC3288 May 31, 2025 4:26 am


Originally Posted by Mr Market (Post 37118291)
i got a flight scheduled early next year on CX888 in J, am i mistaken as the flight type i see on my booking is still a A350-900... really hope this can be on the new Aria seats!

Impossible to know by then. During CX rollouts anything can happen.

But it's fair to say the odds will be considerably higher. Presumably they'll have quite a few more frames by then.

As for really hoping for Aria, it's more hype than substance. Unless you're traveling solo and get stuck with middle, which is when I'd say Aria is much better since it affords genuine privacy and less light pollution at each seat including middles. I've learned from some others on here though, some people don't care about this as much.

For those of us like me old enough to remember the last huge switchover (2007-2009, when "old old old J" aka slanty beds became "old old J" aka Olympus herringbone), this is nothing compared to that. That was non lay flat vs flatbed and made a massive different in comfort.

Then we went Olympus ("old old J") to today's primary reverse herringbone product in the 77W A333 and A350s (now it's "old J" due to Aria, but still flying on most birds). CX very quickly and to their credit, backtracked on Olympus. They deserve huge kudos in my book for that. I'd say that shift, Olympus to all reverse herringbone (2009-2015) was still a far bigger shift than what we have today.

Some on here even like Aria less due to reduced footwell space. Whatever our opinions, I think it's very safe to say this is not a step change. Just an evolution and better tech.

WISEMEN Jun 2, 2025 7:24 am

What’s most surprising to me is how low CX’s daily utilisation of its Aria 777s is.

BusinessElite25 Jun 2, 2025 12:01 pm

Seat map loaded for my Sep YVR flight

im359 Jun 3, 2025 8:13 am


Originally Posted by WISEMEN (Post 37122220)
What’s most surprising to me is how low CX’s daily utilisation of its Aria 777s is.

Maybe give them some time to fix the earlier issues, and to guarantee their promised product to those passenger? (Yes I am looking at you Qatar ;))

G-CIVC Jun 3, 2025 10:50 am

The next destination after YVR is CTS - certain rotations next month have been updated

natbread Jun 3, 2025 6:39 pm


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 37124885)
The next destination after YVR is CTS - certain rotations next month have been updated

CTS? That's a surprising destination.

I guess CTS is just a very profitable port for CX just because of the amount of "rich" people fly on that route, especially during the Winter Season for skiing.

How long has CTS been loaded on the 77J?

percysmith Jun 3, 2025 7:06 pm

Scheduling I thnk

77J seems a bit oversized to fly to CTS over the summer.

corntal Jun 4, 2025 8:57 am


Originally Posted by CarefreeBA (Post 37114541)
3 flights per week on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday

Flying on CX888 on Sunday, 29th June. Seat selection online shows Aria layout. Is it a bug or is the schedule wrong?

CarefreeBA Jun 4, 2025 10:07 am


Originally Posted by corntal (Post 37126658)
Flying on CX888 on Sunday, 29th June. Seat selection online shows Aria layout. Is it a bug or is the schedule wrong?

Neither! They've loaded in the additional 4 flights per week now for YVR

GE90-115B Jun 4, 2025 11:14 am

I'll let others speculate why CTS was chosen as the next regional destination to receive Aria.

But I feel like scheduling played a big part in CX888/865 and CX580/581 being chosen as the next Aria destinations. Historically CX's airframes have always had high daily utilization rates. CX is obsessed with planning wall-to-wall flying assignments for its a/c. Why? Because idle time means loss of potential revenue! It's not uncommon for any given frame to arrive early in the morning at HKG from either North America/Europe/Australia, get dispatched on a same-day turnaround regional run, and then arrive back at HKG in the evening; just in time for another midnight longhaul mission to either NA/EU/AU. These patterns have long been the bread and butter of CX to increase an airframe's utilization. And the timings of CX888/865 and CX580/581 just happens to align with this equation.

natbread Jun 4, 2025 5:59 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 37125697)
Scheduling I thnk

77J seems a bit oversized to fly to CTS over the summer.

If I recall correctly CX normally sends at least 1 77K (580/581) to CTS over the summer peak yearly, so it might not really be "oversized"

But CTS over any other more popular, premium heavy ports like KIX or NRT or PVG is definitely surprising

QRC3288 Jun 4, 2025 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by natbread (Post 37127600)
If I recall correctly CX normally sends at least 1 77K (580/581) to CTS over the summer peak yearly, so it might not really be "oversized"

But CTS over any other more popular, premium heavy ports like KIX or NRT or PVG is definitely surprising

How these planes get allocated in reality is v different from mistaken assumptions in ff circles. There is a general assumption often take for granted (I'm guilty of it sometimes myself before snapping out) that "premium" or "leisure" destinations get this or that priority.

In reality aircraft allocation reliability rotations belly cargo space and other things matter more. Pey vs non pey destination. Etc.

To say nothing of something "premium" destinations like SIN, actually get inferior products due to monopoly/duopoly behavior and inelastic customer demand.

The scheduling gods don't lose sleep at night based on the "next Aria destination".

derek2010 Jun 4, 2025 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 37125697)
Scheduling I thnk

77J seems a bit oversized to fly to CTS over the summer.

CTS should be focused on Y class due to large demand with Group Tickets

natbread Jun 4, 2025 8:53 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 37127748)
How these planes get allocated in reality is v different from mistaken assumptions in ff circles. There is a general assumption often take for granted (I'm guilty of it sometimes myself before snapping out) that "premium" or "leisure" destinations get this or that priority.

In reality aircraft allocation reliability rotations belly cargo space and other things matter more. Pey vs non pey destination. Etc.

To say nothing of something "premium" destinations like SIN, actually get inferior products due to monopoly/duopoly behavior and inelastic customer demand.

The scheduling gods don't lose sleep at night based on the "next Aria destination".

tbf cx normally sends a A333 to CTS off-peak, so this change might just be for PEY and cargo space

hope they keep it until Christmas tho


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