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Originally Posted by rhysflies
(Post 36847812)
There was no marker as to where the wireless charging pad was, which was the bigger issue!
Didn't work well with phones with camera protector (slightly raised clam shell around the camera area ) iphone should have no issue though |
Originally Posted by rhysflies
(Post 36847812)
There was no marker as to where the wireless charging pad was, which was the bigger issue!
Originally Posted by djsflynn
(Post 36847815)
I’ve certainly found that most business class suites with wireless charging require a very delicate and deliberate positioning of the phone. There’s at least one suite design which has a pair of raised rubber strips which act as a guide to positioning your phone while also helping hold it in place so that it doesn’t slide around and I found that worked really well.
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Originally Posted by rhysflies
(Post 36847781)
Ironically, Qsuite has a narrow tunnel foot well!
Emirates hasn't really introduced a new seat though, it's just slung some new tech on its old seat (2008 era I believe!) My verdict, having just done London - Hong Kong and back, both ways on Aria, is that it IS a small footwell. I'm not sure why this is the case; Elements should be better and I'm trying to understand why it feels smaller. That said, it has some excellent knee space for side sleepers like me, and the adjustable arm rest extends the bed space which I like a lot. At 6'2" however I realise I'm in the upper % of people. I do think increasing overall seat pitch by just a couple of inches would go a long way to solving this issue. Aria is definitely the most high-tech business class seat I've flown however and there's a lot of clever stuff in the IFE which is just super slick and nice. And the content catalogue is very good as well which meant I could watch the entire second season of House of the Dragon! Emirates new business class seems to have some major (worse than aria) problems though, from what I'm seeing.. and it's not just "2008 style" seat issue |
Originally Posted by majorpuppy
(Post 36847942)
It's ultimately up to opinion to decide whether the seat is good or not. I believe the high tech defeintily is really good but the main advantage is gone otherwise.
Emirates new business class seems to have some major (worse than aria) problems though, from what I'm seeing.. and it's not just "2008 style" seat issue Agree. Aria has good touches but wish they carried the advantages of the current seats into its design. Oh well. It is what it is for now |
I still think the jury is out, even though I also thought the footwell was small (although my two flights on Aria so far were regional). I'm definitely looking forward to reading more reviewsin in this thread. by people who fly long-haul on it. I know sometimes the first few anecdotes can fool.
A still believe big thing overlooked above, is how un-private the D/G combo seats are on CX's now "old" long-haul J in the A330, B77W and A350. And how obnoxious it was to be a last-minute buyer of expensive J tickets only to have all the windows taken. Nobody is going to cry pity for those of us who do such things. But I believe it is something CX is aware of and the reality is there is a big perceived privacy difference between an A/K seat and a D/G seat in the old J class. I had the same complaint about CX F in the B744, seat 4D was often where I was "relegated" being a buyer of tickets a day or two before takeoff. Clearly, the trade-off is not to our liking it seems and I would've liked the legroom plus the privacy of course. I would've gladly taken an upgraded Cirrus J with doors and new tech, over Aria. I think in this respect CX has failed, especially since it's not like Aria is a groundbreaking product and none of the frequent fliers are fooled (it's a mash-up of designs that basically spun-off the original Super Diamond, and now has a door). But I still think CX did a nice job with the touches. And of course they have now moved to address the problem of the D/G seats, which everyone on here as a savvy and often status passenger, doesn't have to deal with as much. But it isn't great business to be giving clearly inferior seats to the customers who are most-often your highest paying ones so I respect that something had to be done. If I had a choice between Aria D/G or Cirrus D/G long-haul J on a full flight, having flown Aria twice and Cirrus hundreds of times, I would choose Aria for now. |
Originally Posted by QRC3288
(Post 36848044)
I still think the jury is out, even though I also thought the footwell was small (although my two flights on Aria so far were regional). I'm definitely looking forward to reading more reviewsin in this thread. by people who fly long-haul on it. I know sometimes the first few anecdotes can fool.
A still believe big thing overlooked above, is how un-private the D/G combo seats are on CX's now "old" long-haul J in the A330, B77W and A350. And how obnoxious it was to be a last-minute buyer of expensive J tickets only to have all the windows taken. Nobody is going to cry pity for those of us who do such things. But I believe it is something CX is aware of and the reality is there is a big perceived privacy difference between an A/K seat and a D/G seat in the old J class. I had the same complaint about CX F in the B744, seat 4D was often where I was "relegated" being a buyer of tickets a day or two before takeoff. Clearly, the trade-off is not to our liking it seems and I would've liked the legroom plus the privacy of course. I would've gladly taken an upgraded Cirrus J with doors and new tech, over Aria. I think in this respect CX has failed, especially since it's not like Aria is a groundbreaking product and none of the frequent fliers are fooled (it's a mash-up of designs that basically spun-off the original Super Diamond, and now has a door). But I still think CX did a nice job with the touches. And of course they have now moved to address the problem of the D/G seats, which everyone on here as a savvy and often status passenger, doesn't have to deal with as much. But it isn't great business to be giving clearly inferior seats to the customers who are most-often your highest paying ones so I respect that something had to be done. If I had a choice between Aria D/G or Cirrus D/G long-haul J on a full flight, having flown Aria twice and Cirrus hundreds of times, I would choose Aria for now. Yes it sucks with middle seat mate watching tv when cabin lights are dimmed. It's like having flash lights going off constantly haha |
Originally Posted by QRC3288
(Post 36848044)
I still think the jury is out, even though I also thought the footwell was small (although my two flights on Aria so far were regional). I'm definitely looking forward to reading more reviewsin in this thread. by people who fly long-haul on it. I know sometimes the first few anecdotes can fool.
A still believe big thing overlooked above, is how un-private the D/G combo seats are on CX's now "old" long-haul J in the A330, B77W and A350. And how obnoxious it was to be a last-minute buyer of expensive J tickets only to have all the windows taken. Nobody is going to cry pity for those of us who do such things. But I believe it is something CX is aware of and the reality is there is a big perceived privacy difference between an A/K seat and a D/G seat in the old J class. I had the same complaint about CX F in the B744, seat 4D was often where I was "relegated" being a buyer of tickets a day or two before takeoff. Clearly, the trade-off is not to our liking it seems and I would've liked the legroom plus the privacy of course. I would've gladly taken an upgraded Cirrus J with doors and new tech, over Aria. I think in this respect CX has failed, especially since it's not like Aria is a groundbreaking product and none of the frequent fliers are fooled (it's a mash-up of designs that basically spun-off the original Super Diamond, and now has a door). But I still think CX did a nice job with the touches. And of course they have now moved to address the problem of the D/G seats, which everyone on here as a savvy and often status passenger, doesn't have to deal with as much. But it isn't great business to be giving clearly inferior seats to the customers who are most-often your highest paying ones so I respect that something had to be done. If I had a choice between Aria D/G or Cirrus D/G long-haul J on a full flight, having flown Aria twice and Cirrus hundreds of times, I would choose Aria for now. |
Originally Posted by VE105
(Post 36848167)
Actually for long haul J, I would even choose A350 Cirrus D/G over Aria A/K. Aria footwell size means it's impossible for me to get a decent sleep, not to mention the constant knee bumping and insufficient storage. Personally i don't feel the privacy problem on Cirrus middle seats is such a big issue, I can't see my neighbor unless I lean forward which I rarely do inflight.
I am really keen to hear more longhaul Aria anecdotes, maybe it is as bad as feared, or maybe not (I'm hoping). |
Originally Posted by jyuen
(Post 36848055)
The aria middle seat dividers are indeed a major bonus
Yes it sucks with middle seat mate watching tv when cabin lights are dimmed. It's like having flash lights going off constantly haha I redeem my J seats way too early in advance to ever be caught flying solo in the middle. Or make anyone I book for suffer this. |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 36848397)
You mean the Cirrus/FB2 seats right?
I redeem my J seats way too early in advance to ever be caught flying solo in the middle. Or make anyone I book for suffer this. especially a350. The tv monitor is a lot brighter than the 777 yeh I have too many Adhoc longhaul, a couple of times got caught out on really full flights. |
Originally Posted by cxwaterboy
(Post 36847820)
Having a marker, such as the one on AY, would improve quality of life a lot.
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Originally Posted by djsflynn
(Post 36849184)
Actually the ideal combo, IMHO, is an obvious icon or symbol to indicate the presence of a wireless spot – on Aria it's too subtle, being just four rounded edges which indicate something exists within their boundary, rather than a more recognisable 'standard' symbol for wireless charging – plus raised rubber strips which as as a positioning guide and grip.
The consultants would bill CX a few million for this idea. :p |
Originally Posted by QRC3288
(Post 36848182)
I am also bothered by the screen light from the neighbour seats, as jyuen describes. I suppose to each their own. I vastly prefer privacy and am one of these people who does like the additions of the doors, even though I see some people calling it gimmicky, I am not one of those people.
I am really keen to hear more longhaul Aria anecdotes, maybe it is as bad as feared, or maybe not (I'm hoping). As for middle seat, I always wear eyeshield when I sleep (kudos to CX - their eyeshield is one of the most comfortable among all major airlines) so neighbour's TV screen is not a problem. |
My review of the first London Aria departure has now been published on Head for Points: https://www.headforpoints.com/2025/0...-to-hong-kong/
Let me know if you have any follow-up questions! |
Originally Posted by rhysflies
(Post 36852919)
My review of the first London Aria departure has now been published
Let me know if you have any follow-up questions! Thanks Rhys for the article. How would you rate Aria vs BA’s CS ? Esp sleeping for tall people ? Thanks |
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