First Class comeback
Mar 14, 2023 | 5:56 pm
#76
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NYC
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Are there any estimates for a timeline on the return of JFK?
Mar 17, 2023 | 12:12 am
#77
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, UA Silver
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Mar 17, 2023 | 12:08 pm
#78
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,223
Could it be that CX is concerned about flying 77W over Russian airspace, and a 77W cannot reliably serve JFK non-stop w/o using Russian airspace?
Mar 17, 2023 | 12:12 pm
#79
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Location: Denver DEN-APA
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Mar 17, 2023 | 12:20 pm
#80
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: NYC/LA
Programs: DL DM, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 9,806
Aside from the fact that theyre flying over that airspace now, last year when they were avoiding it, the A350s out of JFK also had to make tech stops sometimes (I recall seeing LAX or TPE) for fuel.
Mar 17, 2023 | 12:28 pm
#81
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
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I know the A359s go through Russian airspace when flying from JFK to HKG, but CX is still clearly avoiding the use of Russian airspace otherwise. I don't know if there are any differences between flying an Airbus over Russian airspace vs. a Boeing, but that was what came to my mind when CX announced F would return to LHR and LAX but not JFK. Maybe the consequence of an emergency landing would have been different between that of an Airbus vs. a Boeing?
Mar 17, 2023 | 9:02 pm
#83
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX DM, Accor Platinum, Discovery Titanium, Bonvoy Gold, Ultima
Posts: 414
I will throw another theory out there - the NYC route is very popular for certain industries, eg finance, and F cabins pre-covid were normally full or nearly full but more from Op-Ups and BUs, so pure revenue F seats were probably a lower percentage of the total than the equivalent to LAX for example, which is a route less heavily laden with bankers who don't pay for F revenue seats unless very senior. For LHR, also a banker heavy route, there are more flights, so probably easier to justify more F seats, whether pure revenue or only part-revenue.
Just a theory.
Just a theory.
Mar 17, 2023 | 10:15 pm
#84
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
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Posts: 22,113
Well those of us here long enough know business heavy routes are easier to score First seats due to ability to price discriminate work travel/leisure travel.
Apr 5, 2023 | 6:57 am
#86
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 99
Please let us know and share when you get a chance! Just booked F HKG to LAX for this winter. Super excited to fly CX F for the first time. Have done ANA and JAL F so excited to see how it compares.
Apr 6, 2023 | 3:34 am
#87
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: Cathay Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 788
Its pleasing to see the available 367-Er available fleet increasing every few weeks. B-KPA out of Alice springs on the way back to HK this morning
I noticed a comment by 'boybi' up thread that perhaps needs amplification
Cathay Pacific has been (and still is) a British controlled and operated airline - this for the past many decades.
Its operated by its major shareholder Swire and ultimately controlled by UK based John Swire and Sons who are perhaps interestingly one of the worlds largest Coca-Cola bottlers and a major player in the farming, property and cold storage industries
I noticed a comment by 'boybi' up thread that perhaps needs amplification
Cathay Pacific has been (and still is) a British controlled and operated airline - this for the past many decades.
Its operated by its major shareholder Swire and ultimately controlled by UK based John Swire and Sons who are perhaps interestingly one of the worlds largest Coca-Cola bottlers and a major player in the farming, property and cold storage industries
Apr 6, 2023 | 4:13 pm
#88
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 7,359
PS - Speaking of English accents, is the voice on the MTR real? That's like the most elegant English I've ever heard, even more English than in England!
Apr 6, 2023 | 7:23 pm
#89
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Hong Kong
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Posts: 788
I fly the airline very frequently ( at times 10 times in a month and have done so since about 1976.)
I totally disagree that the service style or delivery post or prior to 1997 was different when attending to us Brits. To be frank l I consider the above to be absolute nonsense - it just did not happen.
Of course at the time and for many years prior all of the cc were Asian drawn from 7or 8 countries with most totally unable to tell one accent from another.
Yes the MTR voice is real - there was an article in the SCMP a few years back about the person behind the voice.
I totally disagree that the service style or delivery post or prior to 1997 was different when attending to us Brits. To be frank l I consider the above to be absolute nonsense - it just did not happen.
Of course at the time and for many years prior all of the cc were Asian drawn from 7or 8 countries with most totally unable to tell one accent from another.
Yes the MTR voice is real - there was an article in the SCMP a few years back about the person behind the voice.
Apr 6, 2023 | 7:55 pm
#90
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Its pleasing to see the available 367-Er available fleet increasing every few weeks. B-KPA out of Alice springs on the way back to HK this morning
I noticed a comment by 'boybi' up thread that perhaps needs amplification
Cathay Pacific has been (and still is) a British controlled and operated airline - this for the past many decades.
Its operated by its major shareholder Swire and ultimately controlled by UK based John Swire and Sons who are perhaps interestingly one of the worlds largest Coca-Cola bottlers and a major player in the farming, property and cold storage industries
I noticed a comment by 'boybi' up thread that perhaps needs amplification
Cathay Pacific has been (and still is) a British controlled and operated airline - this for the past many decades.
Its operated by its major shareholder Swire and ultimately controlled by UK based John Swire and Sons who are perhaps interestingly one of the worlds largest Coca-Cola bottlers and a major player in the farming, property and cold storage industries
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/35045334-post137.html
Cx is operated by CX, it is not a British operated airline, but a HK airline.
The word "controlled" is quite vague. No doubt that the "British" side have a strong voice at CX, whatever it means. But I would never go as far as saying that it is "controlled" by the British.