Dropping of ANC as a refuelling stop

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Jan 7, 2002 | 2:36 pm

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Dropping of ANC as a refuelling stop

Here's some news about CX dropping ANC as a refuelling stop for the YYZ-HKG flights (flights stop at YVR instead). Seems that between CX and CI, it's costing ANC US$100k monthly in lost revenues.

http://www9.cnn.com/2002/TRAVEL/NEWS...airports.reut/

Jan 7, 2002 | 3:21 pm

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I wonder if stopping at YVR will allow CX to pick up more passengers to go to HKG.

Jan 7, 2002 | 5:46 pm

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Originally posted by francophile:
I wonder if stopping at YVR will allow CX to pick up more passengers to go to HKG.

No. The YYZ-(YVR)-HKG flight is strictly for refuelling only. And maybe crew change. No traffic rights whatsoever between YYZ-YVR and YVR-HKG. For the winter, CX can fly HKG-YYZ nonstop anyway. Don't know what they plan to do in the summer.

Jan 7, 2002 | 7:36 pm

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hey

i'm on that flight CX829 on feb 2 and we have a stopover at YVR.

i'd rather we went direct.
ah well..another hour or so to enjoy my first ever business class seat - i also understand it's supposed to be the "new" business clas

yay!

Jan 8, 2002 | 10:34 am

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Guy Betsy,

Is CX unaware of the revenue potential of dropping/picking up passengers between YYZ and YVR?

I think Air Canada has a virtual monopoly between YYZ and YVR. Some comptetion wouldn't be bad.

Jan 8, 2002 | 12:31 pm

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Originally posted by Guy Betsy:
No traffic rights whatsoever between YYZ-YVR and YVR-HKG.

You mean between YYZ-YVR. CX had 2x daily YVR-HKG flights (currently only 2x daily on certain days). I am not sure what the weekly limits between Canada and HKG are (I believe 21x weekly).

Jan 8, 2002 | 12:32 pm

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Originally posted by francophile:
Is CX unaware of the revenue potential of dropping/picking up passengers between YYZ and YVR?

Cabotage. Not allowed. Would be nice however.

Jan 8, 2002 | 1:16 pm

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Very nice indeed!

Perhaps we should say "currently not allowed". Let's hope the situation changes in the future.

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Jan 8, 2002 | 2:05 pm

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I can see YYZ-YVR being allowed (since all pax orignated from Canada) but if it was YVR-YYZ with a flight originating from HKG, al pax will have to clear at YVR or the joining pax at YVR will have to pass through immigration at YYZ. Hardly a convenience.

Jan 8, 2002 | 4:48 pm

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Sadly, I think AC would be wise to fight tooth and nail to ensure that CX does not get cabotage rights on this route. Having recently completed my first AC flight (YVR-YYZ), I can see that AC would have very legitimate grounds to be worried about even minimal competition from CX. AC service and scheduling is, how to say, very relaaaaxed.