Dropping of ANC as a refuelling stop
 

Here's some news about CX dropping ANC as a refuelling stop for the YYZ-HKG flights (flights stop at YVR instead). Seems that between CX and CI, it's costing ANC US$100k monthly in lost revenues.

http://www9.cnn.com/2002/TRAVEL/NEWS...airports.reut/

I wonder if stopping at YVR will allow CX to pick up more passengers to go to HKG.

No. The YYZ-(YVR)-HKG flight is strictly for refuelling only. And maybe crew change. No traffic rights whatsoever between YYZ-YVR and YVR-HKG. For the winter, CX can fly HKG-YYZ nonstop anyway. Don't know what they plan to do in the summer.

hey

i'm on that flight CX829 on feb 2 and we have a stopover at YVR.

i'd rather we went direct.
ah well..another hour or so to enjoy my first ever business class seat - i also understand it's supposed to be the "new" business clas http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif yay!

Guy Betsy,

Is CX unaware of the revenue potential of dropping/picking up passengers between YYZ and YVR?

I think Air Canada has a virtual monopoly between YYZ and YVR. Some comptetion wouldn't be bad.

You mean between YYZ-YVR. CX had 2x daily YVR-HKG flights (currently only 2x daily on certain days). I am not sure what the weekly limits between Canada and HKG are (I believe 21x weekly).

Cabotage. Not allowed. Would be nice however.

Very nice indeed! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Perhaps we should say "currently not allowed". Let's hope the situation changes in the future.

FewMiles..

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I can see YYZ-YVR being allowed (since all pax orignated from Canada) but if it was YVR-YYZ with a flight originating from HKG, al pax will have to clear at YVR or the joining pax at YVR will have to pass through immigration at YYZ. Hardly a convenience.

Sadly, I think AC would be wise to fight tooth and nail to ensure that CX does not get cabotage rights on this route. Having recently completed my first AC flight (YVR-YYZ), I can see that AC would have very legitimate grounds to be worried about even minimal competition from CX. AC service and scheduling is, how to say, very relaaaaxed.

Canada: Great country.
Air Canada: Mediocre airline.

Cathay Pacific: Praise them here.
Air Canada: Complain about them somewhere else.

[This message has been edited by hsi.chang (edited 01-09-2002).]