Cathay v JAL on 4h30 Flight
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That is incorrect. If your source is AusBT, @djsflynn is wrong on this.
"JAL today announced that the JAL SKY SUITE 787 family will welcome a new cabin configuration for its Boeing 787-9. The new JAL SKY SUITE 787-9 (SS9 II) will be operated on the Tokyo (Narita) = Kuala Lumpur route (JL723/JL724) starting the end of July 2017, and progressively expanded onto the other international routes.
Business Class will be retrofitted with the latest highly-reputed fully-flat seat "JAL SKY SUITE III," which was installed on the JAL SKY SUITE 777 aircraft (Boeing 777-200ER) last June. In addition to further expanding fully-flat Business Class seat service to meet robust corporate demand on medium- and long-haul international routes, more seats will be available in Business Class than the current Boeing 787-9."
Business Class will be retrofitted with the latest highly-reputed fully-flat seat "JAL SKY SUITE III," which was installed on the JAL SKY SUITE 777 aircraft (Boeing 777-200ER) last June. In addition to further expanding fully-flat Business Class seat service to meet robust corporate demand on medium- and long-haul international routes, more seats will be available in Business Class than the current Boeing 787-9."
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https://www.ausbt.com.au/japan-airli...-sky-suite-iii
These are the same business class seats which made their debut on JAL's long-range Boeing 777-200ER in mid-2016, and they'll work their way across the Boeing 777 and older Boeing 767 fleet as well as sweeping through both the 787-9 Dreamliners – the latter of which fly the Sydney-Tokyo route and, from September, Melbourne-Tokyo.
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Well I'll be buggered – you're 100% right, that par should clearly not have been in the article based on the JAL statement alone. I just went back through emails to check if this had come from my JAL PR contact by way of further info, but nothing there either, and the heading and lede cite the 787s rather than anything broader – so this may have been a remnant par from an earlier draft which missed an edit-out. A 'mea maxima culpa' on this one!
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Well I'll be buggered – you're 100% right, that par should clearly not have been in the article based on the JAL statement alone. I just went back through emails to check if this had come from my JAL PR contact by way of further info, but nothing there either, and the heading and lede cite the 787s rather than anything broader – so this may have been a remnant par from an earlier draft which missed an edit-out. A 'mea maxima culpa' on this one!
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A lot of times the English sites got it wrong on JL news. And even JL got its own English press releases/website wrong quite often. E.g. the English version uses the word "retrofit" while the Japanese indicates this will be a 2nd configuration on top of the existing more spacious SS9 one, and more recently Japanese version of website states there's no shower facilities for non-status Y passengers on HND-LHR at the lounge but the English site states there will be shower facilities. And we all know which version is the correct one and JL has since made the correction on its website.
Anyway, for HND-HKG, yes CX has a more spacious seat than JL. But when sxc made a generic statement on the seat itself, I just want to clarify the JL seat is mainly (and so far only) used on regional flights, while the CX one was designed for long-haul flights. That might explain the tighter seat design JL chose.
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Anyway, for HND-HKG, yes CX has a more spacious seat than JL. But when sxc made a generic statement on the seat itself, I just want to clarify the JL seat is mainly (and so far only) used on regional flights, while the CX one was designed for long-haul flights. That might explain the tighter seat design JL chose.
Although CX543 meal is up-lifted from HND, catering quality should far better than afternoon leg CX549. At least just tried CX595, meal is up-lifted from KIX, far better than CX507 which using double catering from HKG.
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JL26/29 Vs CX542/543, I stay in JAL for sure. JAL near guaranteed using SS2 cabin but CX just so-so regional config cabin.
Although CX543 meal is up-lifted from HND, catering quality should far better than afternoon leg CX549. At least just tried CX595, meal is up-lifted from KIX, far better than CX507 which using double catering from HKG.
Although CX543 meal is up-lifted from HND, catering quality should far better than afternoon leg CX549. At least just tried CX595, meal is up-lifted from KIX, far better than CX507 which using double catering from HKG.
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FYI, JL will upgrade JL735/736 (NRT-HKG) to 787-9 with SKY SUITE and PY cabin will be added to that route from Dec 1 (Dec 2 for ex-HKG). So product wise it is superior to the JL029/026 (HND-HKG) after the upgrade.
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