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QRC3288 Aug 1, 2016 9:16 pm

HK Observatory saying it will lower T8 to T3, at 1pm or earlier. So ops should start recovering in the afternoon. From flightradar you can see flights inbound flights starting to return en masse. Good luck to those of you flying today....have a beer.

http://www.hko.gov.hk/contente.htm

jagmeets Aug 1, 2016 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 27001400)
HK Observatory saying it will lower T8 to T3, at 1pm or earlier. So ops should start recovering in the afternoon. From flightradar you can see flights inbound flights starting to return en masse. Good luck to those of you flying today....have a beer.

http://www.hko.gov.hk/contente.htm

Ah the memories of my HK days - the constant refreshing of the HKO position / track / warning webpages (that before smartphones became common). Ended up working through almost all T8s - the early evening drinks at surreal-ly empty LKF... Trying to fly out on the first plane post T8 a couple of times was quite some experience (used to be on SQ for HKG-SIN back then - thankfully HK's common sense usually prevailed over 'procedures').

yep - solid advice as always- those flying today, grab a drink!

hydrogen Aug 1, 2016 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 27001400)
HK Observatory saying it will lower T8 to T3, at 1pm or earlier. So ops should start recovering in the afternoon. From flightradar you can see flights inbound flights starting to return en masse. Good luck to those of you flying today....have a beer.

http://www.hko.gov.hk/contente.htm

KL887 is about 45 mins out. Hope they can make it in!

24left Aug 1, 2016 9:59 pm


Originally Posted by hydrogen (Post 27001444)
KL887 is about 45 mins out. Hope they can make it in!

Another 15 minutes or so, but look at their detour over Russia on FlightAware - assuming it's accurate

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KLM887

hydrogen Aug 1, 2016 10:04 pm


Originally Posted by 24left (Post 27001523)
Another 15 minutes or so, but look at their detour over Russia on FlightAware - assuming it's accurate

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KLM887

Doesn't show up on FR24, who knows

gpia Aug 1, 2016 10:38 pm


Originally Posted by hydrogen (Post 27001444)
KL887 is about 45 mins out. Hope they can make it in!

They just did

G-CIVC Aug 1, 2016 10:40 pm

Reason why CX canceled everything - no need to pay overtime for all the crew!

QRC3288 Aug 1, 2016 10:42 pm

update as of 12:40pm local: T8 signal lowered, T3 raised.

For non-HK people, that means the typhoon warning has been lowered and a less severe warning raised in its place. Liability wise, it means the insurance of transport operators in HK is active again, which means CX and KA crews can now be reasonably expected to report to the airport for duty. (insurance coverage is limited for many local transport operators during T8 or higher).

Practically, flights are landing again. And a deluge of flights are now on their way to HKG, including regional flights.

I think safe to assume CX and KA operations should start limited departure operations again within the next hour and ramp up through the afternoon and evening. Now is when they'll shine given how many birds they have sitting on the ground at HKG...and the non-HKG carriers are going to pay a price, due to the lack of arrival aircraft.

Sigh of relief I'm not flying today or yesterday. These typhoons are always luck-of-the-draw bullets you either avoid or don't.

jackrussellterrier Aug 1, 2016 11:11 pm


Originally Posted by hydrogen (Post 27001360)
SQ1 tried to land about an hour ago at HKG. Had to go around and diverting to TPE. Will be interesting to see how things play out over the next few hours.

Yes currently in a busier than usual SQ lounge at TPE! There are some very tired looking pax with stickers on who I assume are the pax of SQ 1 here. Still I'd say the lounge can just about cope. CX flights out of TPE are scheduled to run this afternoon but with 1-2 hour delays in most cases and some pre-cancelled. Glad I booked a direct flight to SIN on Sunday and pushed the CX ticket to later in the year.

24left Aug 1, 2016 11:14 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 27001646)
update as of 12:40pm local: T8 signal lowered, T3 raised.

For non-HK people, that means the typhoon warning has been lowered and a less severe warning raised in its place. Liability wise, it means the insurance of transport operators in HK is active again, which means CX and KA crews can now be reasonably expected to report to the airport for duty. (insurance coverage is limited for many local transport operators during T8 or higher).

Practically, flights are landing again. And a deluge of flights are now on their way to HKG, including regional flights.

I think safe to assume CX and KA operations should start limited departure operations again within the next hour and ramp up through the afternoon and evening. Now is when they'll shine given how many birds they have sitting on the ground at HKG...and the non-HKG carriers are going to pay a price, due to the lack of arrival aircraft.

Sigh of relief I'm not flying today or yesterday. These typhoons are always luck-of-the-draw bullets you either avoid or don't.


Thanks for this!

And I see a nice collection of freighters inbound.

QRC3288 Aug 1, 2016 11:39 pm

I've heard that crew for CX flights scheduled from 2pm onwards are expected to report for duty. Of course, so much equipment is out of sorts that you can't guarantee anything...but it seems like your chances post 2pm should improve markedly.

I notice on FlightRadar that CX884 (1:55pm) *appears* to be showing up, and if so would likely be the first CX departure of the day. Anyway, good luck to all you folks flying today.

Jane's Addiction Aug 2, 2016 12:03 am

Rather annoyingly, my flight CX549 (HND to HKG) today was cancelled yesterday evening. Not sure why an 8pm arrival was cancelled. Presumably the plane was going to be stuck elsewhere.

1010101 Aug 2, 2016 12:13 am


Originally Posted by Jane's Addiction (Post 27001865)
Rather annoyingly, my flight CX549 (HND to HKG) today was cancelled yesterday evening. Not sure why an 8pm arrival was cancelled. Presumably the plane was going to be stuck elsewhere.

The T8 signal was due to be raised before then. It's not for CX to second guess the observatory. The last thing they want is to have to land somewhere else and be stuck out of position - the crew go out of hours and then they've got a plane out of position with noone to fly it until at the least a few hours after the typhoon passes.

Other than in the very peak of the storms the aircraft can still fly - its the crew and passengers that cant. Foreign carriers can takeoff because the crew are all together. If one of them makes it to the airport, all of them do. When weather hits an airport its always the home carriers that are most affected.

Jane's Addiction Aug 2, 2016 12:52 am


Originally Posted by phol (Post 27001889)
The T8 signal was due to be raised before then.


8pm flight on Aug 2, not Aug 1.

G-CIVC Aug 2, 2016 1:48 am


Originally Posted by Jane's Addiction (Post 27001970)
8pm flight on Aug 2, not Aug 1.

Your incoming 548 was canceled this morning?


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