but that means nothing for CX

CX seems to have the ability to dominate US carriers routes , look at UA vs CX

so if CX wants to launch DFW it can... it is very interesting that the DFW route is NOT codeshared with CX

It is. CX 7680

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UA is not a partner with CX. AA is... That was my thought.

Not trying to say AA has a better product

well the website does not say that CX codeshares

CX never advertises it like the other codeshare routes

AA has no feed out of HKG whereas CX does at both ends due to codeshares

AA makes a loss on the route- D.P said that the Asian routes were loss making investments

How many captains does CX have?

Too many to count and growing once the 744 captains cross over to the 777! Some of the 744 captains have already crossed over!

AA/CX do indeed codeshare on this route. AA doesn't advertise much about their codeshare with CX, but they do.

As far as AA, it's only two months with DFW-HKG. It's hard to judge so soon whether or not this route is a money making one or not. I've heard mix things about DFW-HKG. On routes such as ORD-PVG, PEK, etc., I would agree. They're probably not making any money on it.

I agree with the strategy though. They have to fly them even if it's not making money. They have to get the brand out there. AA is weak in Asia. It's probably the same reason why CX is launching MAN, ZRH, and BOS so soon.

Right, they already flown. I think this route has done extremely very well. If there is enough more competition against Delta. It won't have any problem at all.

MANMEL for �769ai isn't a terrible price for either the airline or the consumer IMO (one of their starting prices from what I remember, and I have seen cheaper on the likes of MU routing MAN-PAR-SHA-MEL as well as EK.)

With MU, you get what you pay for. There is NO WAY I would ever transit through mainland China. Don't care how cheap it is. Not worth it. I know quite a few people who did CZ from Aussie to Europe via CAN and they all said never again.

I envision MAN eventually going daily. Who knows. There might even be a 6th daily to LHR or a 5th daily to LAX.

why would AA advertise about CX
the interesting thing is that CX is not advertising or promoting the route like it does with NADI and other CX codeshared destinations.

meh if AA wanted an Asian presence HKG was pointless- AA is advertised on every CX flight to USA AA should have used their new aircraft to launch other Asian cities like Taipei etc. ( and please do not say there is no market when the Taiwanese can operate 3 daily flights)

umm CX inever launches a route with the intention or knowledge that it would make a loss, their CEO's have always said that and hence CX expansion is very conservative.

I am confident that MAN-HKG and ZRH-HKG traffic is greater and more premium than DFW-HKG

and even with the additions CX only serves 53 destinations- that is tiny compared to SQ /EK/QR

CX does advertise actually. They don't promote that route specifically, but if you look at AA's inflight magazine, you'll see CX advertisements.

AA has always been very weak in Asia. I think they have tried with TPE and it didn't work. They are in some ways like CX. Very conservative when it comes to route expansion. In the past, they were too focused on feeding NRT and you can see NRT is not the same as it was years ago.

I agree about CX being very conservative, but that culture is slowly starting to change. They have to be aggressive because airlines like CI, BR, CA, MU, and even JL are stepping up their game.

Also, the aircraft order with the 779 is being a step ahead.

I'm not necessarily interested if CX flew to SEA but I really wouldn't mind nonstop to IAD. I doubt it will happen but I can dream

Can't speak for First and Premium Economy (/their lame "Economy Comfort")....but Delta has actually been doing pretty well in international flights for the past few years. Flown with them to LAX a few times...pretty impressive in both Econ and Business........for an "American airline"

CX is by no means tiny compared to SQ. They are far superior in N America in terms of frequency, and SQ doesn't even fly to Canada...

My point here though is there's no point comparing carriers that are in very different geographical locations. The ME3s would trump in the European/African market but similarly fall short on the Asian side.

I don't think any airline would launch a route knowing that it would not be profitable, but from the Cathay POV they want to make sure that a route is able to roll cash in almost from day 1- hence at times quite conservative.

Seeing how quickly MAN, ZRH and BOS have come online, I think we can expect new LH/ULH routes to be launched once they get hold of A350s, simply to claw back on the lead over BR, CI and the mainland Chinese airlines.