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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 2:51 am
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Is it best to go to Qantas lounge now then, as I understand it there is no real restaurant right now
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by Cathay Boy
About time. The F lounge dining was WORSE than before the renovation. The offering seems to go down the hill. When it first opened you get pan-fried scallops regularly. Now you get cheap shrimp cake, and it's not everyday, some days you get cheap seafood. And the fried rice is literally just that, fried white rice with not much else (don't be fooled by the signs that said Duck or Roast Pork, you don't get much of any of that but 99% is rice with a few sprinkles of duck or roast pork.) For one of the top airlines in the world, they sure fall real flat in their flagship lounge.
Their menu and buffet items hardly change... I have seen the same main course options for quite some times now as far as I can remember. We all know how CX food on board are like and now even at the lounge... what a shame!
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 10:08 am
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So both F section for Pier and Wing are closed? I think there must be some can't-wait-further problem to fix or else I can't think of any reason to close both F-only lounge concurrently...
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 1:26 pm
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So both F section for Pier and Wing are closed? I think there must be some can't-wait-further problem to fix or else I can't think of any reason to close both F-only lounge concurrently...
The Haven, which is in The Wing is closed. Other than that, the F lounge is still open. The Pier has be closed for renovations.
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 1:28 pm
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Originally Posted by HKGglobaltrotter
Their menu and buffet items hardly change... I have seen the same main course options for quite some times now as far as I can remember. We all know how CX food on board are like and now even at the lounge... what a shame!
Have you ever visited the JL F lounge at NRT? It's the same thing; Beef Curry, Miso Soup, Potato Leek Soup, Salads, etc. Check out that lounge and the MH F lounge at KUL; Nasei Lemak and
Beef Rendang. I've seen it and I said to myself, CX ain't that bad.
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by gemini573
Have you ever visited the JL F lounge at NRT? It's the same thing; Beef Curry, Miso Soup, Potato Leek Soup, Salads, etc. Check out that lounge and the MH F lounge at KUL; Nasei Lemak and
Beef Rendang. I've seen it and I said to myself, CX ain't that bad.
Would you compare a BMW to a Chevolet? CX brands and prides itself of being a BMW of flying, they should give nobody any condolences when they beat out airline chevys.
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by busdrivingman
Is it best to go to Qantas lounge now then, as I understand it there is no real restaurant right now
If you want a real restaurant you are probably best to go to a real restaurant, not an airline lounge (with the exception of the QF F lounge in SYD/MEL)

Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
Maybe they want to change the food offerings after comparisons to Qantas' lounge..
If they really wanted to improve the food offerings, they don't need to do renovations for that.
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 2:29 am
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Yikes. This is a sudden change for sure.

Why is HKIA always soo bloody warm?
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by gemini573
Have you ever visited the JL F lounge at NRT? It's the same thing; Beef Curry, Miso Soup, Potato Leek Soup, Salads, etc. Check out that lounge and the MH F lounge at KUL; Nasei Lemak and
Beef Rendang. I've seen it and I said to myself, CX ain't that bad.
Yes I have been to both and also AA flagship lounge at LAX numerous time! You're right! Other airlines' offering aren't exactly great either. Though as Cathay Boy pointed out CX prides itself as a premier airline so when they brag about their flagship lounge like the Wing F passengers (like myself) would be drawing comparison with QF F lounge at SYD and not MH F lounge or AA flagship lounge.
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 9:47 am
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I'm glad to see CX responding so swiftly to feedback. it probably indicates just how unrelenting the negative comments have been though.

CX missed the boat completely when they remodeled the F Wing. The acoustics are terrible, and that's very apparent in the Haven. When it's busy, you quickly notice the area is devoid of any soft furnishings so noise travels terribly. Outside in the main area noise travels terribly too, but that's mainly because it's exposed to the terminal below.

So kudos to CX. Now lets hope they remodel the very lackluster menu and the...ahem...hopeless service. I'm still mesmerized The Peninsula trashes their reputation in such a way.
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by Elope
I'm glad to see CX responding so swiftly to feedback. it probably indicates just how unrelenting the negative comments have been though.

CX missed the boat completely when they remodeled the F Wing. The acoustics are terrible, and that's very apparent in the Haven. When it's busy, you quickly notice the area is devoid of any soft furnishings so noise travels terribly. Outside in the main area noise travels terribly too, but that's mainly because it's exposed to the terminal below.

So kudos to CX. Now lets hope they remodel the very lackluster menu and the...ahem...hopeless service. I'm still mesmerized The Peninsula trashes their reputation in such a way.
I've said it from day one, the remodel made the F lounge WORSE, not better. The Cabanas are horribly designed with a lot of wasted space. I had a client that used to be in interior design business, and he said if he drew that blue print to any reputable commercial services builder he would be laugh out of the room.

Then it's the lounge spacing. The openness invites noise from the airport, and the acoustics is horrible (obviously the designer never considered it), and made the lounge sounded like a zoo when it is full. Again, magazine stacks and Apple stations sections are poorly thought out with dead space.

Finally, the Hell... er... I meant the Haven. The old lounge looks and feels like a restaurant. The Haven looks like a glorified cafeteria. The old lounge you get good foods with a ham/roast beef cutting station. New lounge you get "fried rice" with shrimp chips.

However, I do agree that something major must have been reported for them to shut down Haven like this, with Pier under renovation. Rats infections perhaps?
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Cathay Boy
I've said it from day one, the remodel made the F lounge WORSE, not better. The Cabanas are horribly designed with a lot of wasted space. I had a client that used to be in interior design business, and he said if he drew that blue print to any reputable commercial services builder he would be laugh out of the room.

Then it's the lounge spacing. The openness invites noise from the airport, and the acoustics is horrible (obviously the designer never considered it), and made the lounge sounded like a zoo when it is full. Again, magazine stacks and Apple stations sections are poorly thought out with dead space.
you do realised designing an architectural project is a two-way stress. what client wants and what designer wants can usually be very different. not to mention how many people are involved from the start (architect's concepts) to finish (finishing touches like flower arrangements), and anything in between (furnitures). (architects do not usually involved in the finishing touches). The final decision is almost always drawn by the clients, with mutual arrangement of course.

Yes architectural firm Foster + Partners is a highly repeatable international architecture firm.
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 9:46 pm
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you do realised designing an architectural project is a two-way stress. what client wants and what designer wants can usually be very different. not to mention how many people are involved from the start (architect's concepts) to finish (finishing touches like flower arrangements), and anything in between (furnitures). (architects do not usually involved in the finishing touches). The final decision is almost always drawn by the clients, with mutual arrangement of course.

Yes architectural firm Foster + Partners is a highly repeatable international architecture firm.
F and P designed HKG airport

Designed T3 at Beijing

Designed the cruise terminal

I think they know a thing or 2 about design!!!
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by zqsn5678
Yes architectural firm Foster + Partners is a highly repeatable international architecture firm.
Originally Posted by Kachjc

I think they know a thing or 2 about design!!!
Doesn't always mean that they're right and the end users need to learn more about design.
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by LAXative
Doesn't always mean that they're right and the end users need to learn more about design.
no it does not and they can make mistakes, be thankful they are changing it

as for the WING noise

it will be noisy

its open air-many people like that

there is a reason CX offers 4 other lounges at its hub

each caters to a slightly different preference- you want quiet and peace go to the Bridge and or Pier

do not go to the WING and complain- it is for the people who like open spaces
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