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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 4:06 am
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Originally Posted by jona970318
So, I guess this is the third variation of the successful 'worlds best business class' product after CX and AA
US was first in using these seats.
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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 4:15 am
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Originally Posted by IanFromHKG
Air France have also decided to adopt it: http://www.ausbt.com.au/air-france-p...business-class.
AF will have an edge over other european airlines (BA+LH+LX) if these seats to be installed ^
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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by oldyjiang
Obviously you're missing his point. He's not doing a seat comparison between US airlines and Asian airlines. He's not comparing the old First Class seat and the new First Class seat. Webb's point is completely valid - the first class seat (and first class pricing) is a CX business class seat with new covering - it is NOT a first class seat. I had the same reaction as him when I saw it.
CX also uses those seats for LONG-HAUL routes

KA uses it for SHORT-HAUL routes

hardly any confusion or sneakiness there.

ithe KA first class seat is now the top short haul dedicated first class seat on earth.

if Mr Webb would like lower standards and a simple recline seat like the rest- he should zip it and fly mainland airlines!!!

seriously- even when KA/CX improve their product to the top people complain.....
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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by Kachjc
CX also uses those seats for LONG-HAUL routes
CX uses this type of seats for long haul business class only.

Originally Posted by Kachjc
seriously- even when KA/CX improve their product to the top people complain.....
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 11:02 pm
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There is of course the rotation of aircraft and hence you may see long-haul business class seats show up with say the flights to/from Manila.

Has any airline solved the issue of the persons sitting in D/K seeing the TV screens of the neighbours if the TV screen is lodged in the original position ?
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 6:33 pm
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According to wikipedia, KA only has 6 a330s with a first class cabin, so the retrofit should be a fairly quick process, right? Maybe 2 or 3 months?
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by rendezvous
According to wikipedia, KA only has 6 a330s with a first class cabin, so the retrofit should be a fairly quick process, right? Maybe 2 or 3 months?
Retrofit + a D-check = A month or so per plane.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 7:27 pm
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And since this thread has been bumped

Who updates this page?:
http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index...air_(KA)_Fleet

Not sure why The new First class has not been added.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by maortega15
Retrofit + a D-check = A month or so per plane.
Plus all the planes might not be due a D-check sequentially.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by sxc
Plus all the planes might not be due a D-check sequentially.
It would still take a month or so regardless.
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 4:36 pm
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I have a HKG-PEK flight in KA F during mid-May, so I'm hoping the new F class will be installed by the time of my flight.
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by rendezvous
I have a HKG-PEK flight in KA F during mid-May, so I'm hoping the new F class will be installed by the time of my flight.
bonus #1 is actually getting an aircraft with F (no substitutions) and bonus #2 would be new F
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 5:15 pm
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Isn't AA new Flagship First on the A321T using the same seat as well, on the JFK-LAX/SFO route, which is longer than KA's regional routes that use F (primarily only serving PEK and SHA)?
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 4:25 am
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A33R uploaded:
http://www.dragonair.com/ka/en_HK/tr...-300-a33r.html

Doesn't look like it will take much room more than the J's seat.
Wonder if CX/KA will really profit from these "F" seats...or just slowly turn into an op-up heaven....
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 1:57 am
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These seats sell.
ALL THE TIME.
Although op ups occur, many many times the F cabin leaves full to/from PEK and SHA
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