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cxfan1960 Oct 4, 2018 5:58 pm


Originally Posted by sscywong (Post 30278525)
Actually I'm more interested in tiebreaker... Previously is BN, but nowadays SEC should means nothing in op-up... I always wonder if booking class matters or not... Will report later this month after I make another HKG SIN flight

Booking class probably doesn't matter. I flew HKG-SFO on subclass I last month, and was upgraded to F at the gate.

dkc192 Oct 4, 2018 11:20 pm


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 30280093)
Booking class probably doesn't matter. I flew HKG-SFO on subclass I last month, and was upgraded to F at the gate.

Yeah, I got an op-up on an AA-booked U ticket on BOS-HKG the weekend before Christmas as a (now lowly) partner OWE. I'd just switched onto the flight less than 2 days out--surprised I was able to bag a U seat when J and/or lower cabins ended up being overbooked!

Audio Oct 4, 2018 11:23 pm

It's no use, make many trips HKG->SIN->HKG for many months. Hardly any upgrades as DM and now GO.

I did Cathay Dragon PEN->HKG last weekend....some infant couple robbed my front row window seat.....they let the infant sleep on the floor and rejected the bassinet. No upgrade though I did see printed boarding cards at the boarding gate, ready for upgraded passengers.

I am doing SQ for the next 2 trips.

(Audio)

hahaboy123 Oct 8, 2018 6:01 am

Had anyone encountered the same situation like me before?
I just realized all my op-up flights were booked directly from Cathay Pacific website, and for those flights I booked from OTA got zero op-up.
Oh yeah, there was one and only op-up flight booked from OTA because I travelled on my birthday.
So, if that Cathay Pacific/ Dragon only consider to op-up passenger who booked the ticket directly from their website instead of OTA? :eek:
BTW, I'm just a lowly silver.

cxfan1960 Oct 8, 2018 11:17 am


Originally Posted by hahaboy123 (Post 30291131)
Had anyone encountered the same situation like me before?
I just realized all my op-up flights were booked directly from Cathay Pacific website, and for those flights I booked from OTA got zero op-up.
Oh yeah, there was one and only op-up flight booked from OTA because I travelled on my birthday.
So, if that Cathay Pacific/ Dragon only consider to op-up passenger who booked the ticket directly from their website instead of OTA? :eek:
BTW, I'm just a lowly silver.

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No, I got a few op-ups on tickets from my TA. However, I have been DM and now GO. Status is a very important factor.

beach86 Oct 9, 2018 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by CXFlyerBoy (Post 30270625)
Flew 659 yesterday and spoke with checkin staff at HKG and was told the pecking order is

CX DM
CX GO
CX SL

ahead of OWE and OWS

I flew HKG-YVR a couple of months ago. Checked in at the same time with a colleague (different PNR) who is GO, whilst I am DM. Both travelling in I. She got upgraded to F, whilst I did not I. I was told informally on the flight told that sometimes they upgrade GO above DM - as they classify that the DMs are already loyal customers and they could potentially get more business by upgrading a GO.

QRC3288 Oct 9, 2018 11:23 pm


Originally Posted by beach86 (Post 30298277)
I flew HKG-YVR a couple of months ago. Checked in at the same time with a colleague (different PNR) who is GO, whilst I am DM. Both travelling in I. She got upgraded to F, whilst I did not I. I was told informally on the flight told that sometimes they upgrade GO above DM - as they classify that the DMs are already loyal customers and they could potentially get more business by upgrading a GO.

wow

SLGO Oct 9, 2018 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by beach86 (Post 30298277)
I flew HKG-YVR a couple of months ago. Checked in at the same time with a colleague (different PNR) who is GO, whilst I am DM. Both travelling in I. She got upgraded to F, whilst I did not I. I was told informally on the flight told that sometimes they upgrade GO above DM - as they classify that the DMs are already loyal customers and they could potentially get more business by upgrading a GO.

If the logic is to lure not-that-loyal customers to CX, they should have upgraded OW elites instead. :p

beach86 Oct 9, 2018 11:32 pm


Originally Posted by SLGO (Post 30298389)

If the logic is to lure not-that-loyal customers to CX, they should have upgraded OW elites instead. :p

I agree, either way this was a jaw-dropping experience and causes me to question my loyalty. I have been DM for 2 years and never had an up-op but admittedly I fly heavy elite routes, or J or with an infant.

G-CIVC Oct 9, 2018 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by beach86 (Post 30298277)
I flew HKG-YVR a couple of months ago. Checked in at the same time with a colleague (different PNR) who is GO, whilst I am DM. Both travelling in I. She got upgraded to F, whilst I did not I. I was told informally on the flight told that sometimes they upgrade GO above DM - as they classify that the DMs are already loyal customers and they could potentially get more business by upgrading a GO.

ACV trumped status - it is happening after all!

(I assume you did not order special meal, no special requests/notes on your itinerary)

blum81 Oct 10, 2018 2:58 am


Originally Posted by beach86 (Post 30298277)
I flew HKG-YVR a couple of months ago. Checked in at the same time with a colleague (different PNR) who is GO, whilst I am DM. Both travelling in I. She got upgraded to F, whilst I did not I. I was told informally on the flight told that sometimes they upgrade GO above DM - as they classify that the DMs are already loyal customers and they could potentially get more business by upgrading a GO.

Actually, I had this happen to me on my last Cathay Dragon flight from HKG to KUL.

Was chatting with the guy behind me while waiting in the MP line. We're both booked in economy. He was a GO and me a DM. He was telling me he just got upgraded to GO and has switched all of his flights from MH to CX.

He got the beep at the gate and I didn't. A bit of a WTH....

dfwrob Oct 10, 2018 11:28 am

Hi, need some advice please. Am doing a MR on the 24th of this month with a return on the 25th that looks like this. JNB-HKG-CDG in PE with a R and W booking class. Will have about a 5 1/2 hour layover and then be on the return flight. The "manage my booking" page is offering upgrades with a bid, but I've enough Asia Miles to upgrade the round trip (70,000). Problem is that when I called Asia Miles they said milage upgrades are not available.

What should I do? Wait to see if milage upgrades go through, I filled out online request, or should I put in a minimum bid on the legs I would reluctantly want to pay for the upgrade?

I will have just gotten off a DFW-DOH-JNB flight the morning before leaving on the CX one. Wife says I'm nuts. LOL

G-CIVC Oct 10, 2018 11:35 am


Originally Posted by dfwrob (Post 30300289)
Hi, need some advice please. Am doing a MR on the 24th of this month with a return on the 25th that looks like this. JNB-HKG-CDG in PE with a R and W booking class. Will have about a 5 1/2 hour layover and then be on the return flight. The "manage my booking" page is offering upgrades with a bid, but I've enough Asia Miles to upgrade the round trip (70,000). Problem is that when I called Asia Miles they said milage upgrades are not available.

What should I do? Wait to see if milage upgrades go through, I filled out online request, or should I put in a minimum bid on the legs I would reluctantly want to pay for the upgrade?

I will have just gotten off a DFW-DOH-JNB flight the morning before leaving on the CX one. Wife says I'm nuts. LOL

You call them and ask them to put you on a waitlist. Bear in mind, if it clears sector by sector instead of in one go, or if it only clears at the airport (ie JNB HKG and HKG CDG clearing separately), then you will have to ticket them as two separate awards.

The upgrade bid is more than often very poor value, and it doesn't rebook you into the higher class anyway.

You wouldn't be in this scenario if you were CX DM. One more reason to flee AAdvantage like what I did :)

dfwrob Oct 10, 2018 11:49 am


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 30300316)
You call them and ask them to put you on a waitlist. Bear in mind, if it clears sector by sector instead of in one go, or if it only clears at the airport (ie JNB HKG and HKG CDG clearing separately), then you will have to ticket them as two separate awards.

The upgrade bid is more than often very poor value, and it doesn't rebook you into the higher class anyway.

You wouldn't be in this scenario if you were CX DM. One more reason to flee AAdvantage like what I did :)

If I wasn't based In Dallas that would be very attractive to me!

You are correct. The upgrade bid is not very attractive at all. $1,100 per leg to be at the bottom of a "fair" bid. Worst case scenario was to bid on the return portion so as to get some good sleep prior to meeting up with the wife in HRE.

I'll call to ask to be waitlisted. If they clear at the airport and have to be ticketed as 2 separate awards, will that require more miles?

Thank you so much!

QRC3288 Oct 10, 2018 5:27 pm


Originally Posted by dfwrob (Post 30300289)
Am doing a MR on the 24th of this month with a return on the 25th that looks like this. JNB-HKG-CDG in PE with a R and W booking class. Will have about a 5 1/2 hour layover and then be on the return flight.

I will have just gotten off a DFW-DOH-JNB flight the morning before leaving on the CX one.

Wife says I'm nuts. LOL

+1 to your wife!


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