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eric0429 Mar 3, 2019 11:05 am
Just try to use my asiamiles to redeem an upgrade award from J to F for my Lax to Hkg flight on 13/3, but it is still on waitlist and I just check EP it shows F3A3J9C9D9I9W9R9E8Y9B9H9K9M9L9V9S9N9Q9

I guess I don't have a good chance to redeem it successfully, it might related to their first class bug fare earlier this year.

Microtat Mar 4, 2019 5:08 am
Curious if anyone has gotten any luck with upgrades when holding a redemption ticket? Is so what sector and whats your tier?

etkuo Mar 4, 2019 10:22 am
Originally Posted by Microtat (Post 30845398)
Curious if anyone has gotten any luck with upgrades when holding a redemption ticket? Is so what sector and whats your tier?
Yup, we have had multiple reports where status passengers were op-up on redemption tickets when flight is overbooked.

prw555 Mar 4, 2019 12:45 pm
Originally Posted by prw555 (Post 30824533)
As DM, failed 01/28, and 02/25 CX872 (HKG-SFO) - J to F, with Asia Miles Redemption request. Get the feeling that the mistake fares are taking away J to F opportunities. Quite how long will last, not sure.
Back out from SFO on 3/21 on 873 and returning 3/25 on 872. All F blocked. Didn't even bother with a UPG request. This is the new norm apparently.

QRC3288 Mar 4, 2019 5:40 pm
Originally Posted by prw555 (Post 30847119)
Back out from SFO on 3/21 on 873 and returning 3/25 on 872. All F blocked. Didn't even bother with a UPG request. This is the new norm apparently.
it'll be rough going for USA flights until end of the year, whenever this mistake F fare ends. IIRC the fares were bookable until late November 2019 - does anyone know the dates roughly?

in good news they've restored a lot of A fare availability, at least from ports I buy from. I guess maybe this isn't universal. But I think award F is in big trouble to the USA until the mistake fare window is over.

calcio1 Mar 17, 2019 10:59 pm
I have booked two tickets in premium economy for HKG-DUB. (May 11)

It says only one seat is currently available to choose.

Does this mean the passenger who does not select a seat is likely to be upgraded? (i.e. PE overbooked?)

prw555 Apr 12, 2019 8:16 pm
Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 30848261)
it'll be rough going for USA flights until end of the year, whenever this mistake F fare ends. IIRC the fares were bookable until late November 2019 - does anyone know the dates roughly?

in good news they've restored a lot of A fare availability, at least from ports I buy from. I guess maybe this isn't universal. But I think award F is in big trouble to the USA until the mistake fare window is over.
4/11 CX 872 - SFO - HKG. Didn't clear, J to F, with a Diamond BUD. Surprise surprise. Not looking any better for 4/22 either.

Conkers Apr 24, 2019 12:48 am
Apologies if I have missed this but does anyone know why upgrading an existing BA booking with Asia Miles was stopped in June 2018? Can you still use Asia Miles to make a new redemption booking on BA metal?

ernestnywang Apr 24, 2019 1:46 am
Originally Posted by Conkers (Post 31031560)
Apologies if I have missed this but does anyone know why upgrading an existing BA booking with Asia Miles was stopped in June 2018? Can you still use Asia Miles to make a new redemption booking on BA metal?
I don't recall this topic being thoroughly discussed, but my guess is that it was simply too complicated. Back in the old days, they issued paper-based MCO on 160 (CX) stock to be applied on the 125 (BA) stock ticket. There's a different record locator for the upgraded segment and all is good. Now, with e-tickets and PNR matching the e-tickets, as well as married segment and a lot of other things, it was probably too time-consuming to process these BA and AA upgrade requests. That's probably why CX stopped offering them.

I agree the T class-to-U class upgrade on BA was a bargain, especially given CX does not allow E class-to-U class upgrade. On the other hand, neither BAEC nor AAdvantage members could redeem CX upgrades, so it was a bit unfair, or at least not reciprocated.

Conkers Apr 24, 2019 2:29 am
Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 31031640)
I don't recall this topic being thoroughly discussed, but my guess is that it was simply too complicated. Back in the old days, they issued paper-based MCO on 160 (CX) stock to be applied on the 125 (BA) stock ticket. There's a different record locator for the upgraded segment and all is good. Now, with e-tickets and PNR matching the e-tickets, as well as married segment and a lot of other things, it was probably too time-consuming to process these BA and AA upgrade requests. That's probably why CX stopped offering them.

I agree the T class-to-U class upgrade on BA was a bargain, especially given CX does not allow E class-to-U class upgrade. On the other hand, neither BAEC nor AAdvantage members could redeem CX upgrades, so it was a bit unfair, or at least not reciprocated.
Many thanks Ernest that is very helpful. A shame for sure.

MarCar Apr 24, 2019 10:40 am
Can anyone advise me about the availability of CX806 ORD-HKG on 5/11? I'm CX SL and I have a PE ticket trying to find out my chance of an upgrade. Thanks a lot!

ernestnywang Apr 24, 2019 11:10 am
Originally Posted by MarCar (Post 31033008)
Can anyone advise me about the availability of CX806 ORD-HKG on 5/11? I'm CX SL and I have a PE ticket trying to find out my chance of an upgrade. Thanks a lot!
What kind of upgrade are you looking at? If mileage redemption, I suggest you to try to put a waitlist. My experience in the past few months is that CX is very good at clearing upgrade waitlist for me, and I'm SL, too. If you are talking about op-up, I would not be optimistic.

TW POS:
Code:
111MAYORDHKG¤CX«                                               
 11MAY  SAT  ORD/CDT    HKG/‡13                             
CX RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **                   
** CATHAY PACIFIC - AN **                17 SA 11MAY 0000     
13CX  807 F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 IL WL R5 ORDHKG  1520 2020‡1 77W 0   
          E7 Y6 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL
US POS:
Code:
AN11MAYORDHKG/ACX                                             
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN **          17 SA 11MAY 0000     
** YX HKGTHK **THE MURRAY HKG, A NICCOLO HOTEL** NEWLY OPENED 
** BED N BKFAST - FR 3560HKD / FREE BKFAST N WIFI <HAYXHKGTHK-1
 1  CX 807  F4 A3 J9 C9/ORD HKG  1520    2020‡1  0/77W    16:00
            D9 IL W9 R3 EL Y6 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL

synthkeys Apr 24, 2019 12:28 pm
[QUOTE=MarCar;31033008]Can anyone advise me about the availability of CX806 ORD-HKG on 5/11? I'm CX SL and I have a PE ticket trying to find out my chance of an upgrade. Thanks a lot![/QUOT
Looking to upgrade with miles or op-up? Either way it's too early to tell. EF is showing - F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 I0 W9 R3 E0 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0. If you're looking to upgrade with miles I would think you'd be waitlisted as no I class availability. If J cabin availability holds at these levels, I'd say good chance to clear waitlist or at least get instant upgrade but it's too early to predict. Opup scenario looks good as E cabin is almost sold out but still relies on J cabin availability and enough oversell to overflow PE cabin. But it's just too early to even try and predict.

MarCar Apr 24, 2019 1:43 pm
Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 31033109)
What kind of upgrade are you looking at? If mileage redemption, I suggest you to try to put a waitlist. My experience in the past few months is that CX is very good at clearing upgrade waitlist for me, and I'm SL, too. If you are talking about op-up, I would not be optimistic.

TW POS:

Code:
111MAYORDHKG¤CX«
11MAY SAT ORD/CDT HKG/‡13
CX RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **
** CATHAY PACIFIC - AN ** 17 SA 11MAY 0000
13CX 807 F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 IL WL R5 ORDHKG 1520 2020‡1 77W 0
E7 Y6 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL

US POS:

Code:
AN11MAYORDHKG/ACX
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** 17 SA 11MAY 0000
** YX HKGTHK **THE MURRAY HKG, A NICCOLO HOTEL** NEWLY OPENED
** BED N BKFAST - FR 3560HKD / FREE BKFAST N WIFI <HAYXHKGTHK-1
1 CX 807 F4 A3 J9 C9/ORD HKG 1520 2020‡1 0/77W 16:00
D9 IL W9 R3 EL Y6 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL
Thank you very much! CX gave me SL status for free, so I'm gambling for an op-up lol
We'll see what happens.
I just noticed ORD-HKG is CX807 not 806, but you got it right

MarCar Apr 24, 2019 1:46 pm
[QUOTE=synthkeys;31033377]
Originally Posted by MarCar (Post 31033008)
Can anyone advise me about the availability of CX806 ORD-HKG on 5/11? I'm CX SL and I have a PE ticket trying to find out my chance of an upgrade. Thanks a lot![/QUOT
Looking to upgrade with miles or op-up? Either way it's too early to tell. EF is showing - F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 I0 W9 R3 E0 Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0. If you're looking to upgrade with miles I would think you'd be waitlisted as no I class availability. If J cabin availability holds at these levels, I'd say good chance to clear waitlist or at least get instant upgrade but it's too early to predict. Opup scenario looks good as E cabin is almost sold out but still relies on J cabin availability and enough oversell to overflow PE cabin. But it's just too early to even try and predict.
Thank you! CX gave me SL status for free, so I'm gambling for an op-up lol
Considering mid-May is when college summer breaks start, the rest of the tickets may still be sold. We'll see what happens.


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