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Old Oct 29, 2013, 4:27 am
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Is it possible to buy a (cheap) upgrade on Cathay Pacific upon check-in?

The short answer is no.

Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.

There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.


If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?

Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.

How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.

The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
  1. VIP (Heads of State, Government Bodies, or Canto Pop/Movie stars)
  2. CX Diamond Plus
  3. CX Diamond Invitation, Diamond
  4. CX Gold
  5. CX management staff on travel duty
  6. oneworld Emerald
  7. CX staff on duty nominees , other airline staff nominees, CX staff on personal travel
  8. oneworld Sapphire
  9. CX Silver
  10. oneworld Ruby
  11. CX Green
  12. Asia Miles
  13. Non status
In the event of a tiebreak being needed, generally those with lower "Boarding Numbers" will take precedence (lower BN takes priority). The earlier you check in, the lower your BN. Asking for an upgrade at check-in will not work, so don't. This is definitely one case of where "if you don't ask, you don't get", does NOT apply. The amount you paid for your ticket or the fare class of your ticket does not appear to affect your upgrade chances.


I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?

Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.



What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?

It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.


Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?

Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades


I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?

As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.


How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?

If you already have issued your original ticket:
  1. Try upgrading using Manage My Booking on the website (not always successful)
  2. If self-service doesn't work, try calling Marco Polo hotline to check availability
  3. If there is availability, you will need to issue the upgrade immediately to secure it. They may give you a few days grace before isssuing the upgrade, but this is now rarely given.
  4. In a few days, or longer if they are busy, your miles will be deducted, and you will be emailed a new e-ticket with the upgrade class details on it, and your online booking for your original booking class will disappear.

If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
  1. Call Marco Polo club to check for availability on the flights/dates you want, or check for normal redemption availability on the website.
  2. Book a revenue ticket in the class of service for which you will be paying. Do NOT do this via the website -- call a CX telephone sales number/travel agent.
  3. Put the booking on hold.
  4. Call the Marco Polo/Asia Miles Service Center. Have them book the upgrade and give you a deadline to have the ticket issued. (It's usually about 72 hours).
  5. Have telephone sales/travel agent issue your revenue ticket.
  6. Call Marco Polo/Asia Miles back. Give them the revenue ticket number against the PNR and ask them to issue your upgrade.
  7. In about two or three days, you'll get a new ticket with the upgrade showing.

If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
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Old May 9, 2017 | 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
Before our other CX regulars (or those that don't fly with CX but somehow tend to masquerade as) chip in, just bear in mind that the statistical likelihood of that happening is going to be tiny.
Yes, I read the first post of this thread so I'm not expecting much of anything. I never expect much of anything on BA, either!

Originally Posted by G-CIVC
In fact if you are going somewhere else (i.e. not terminating in HKG) the fare difference may not be as high as you think, it could be like $2-3k (roundtrip) so you can still try calling in.
It's EWR-HKG-SIN, RT. When I booked the fare originally, PE was $1700 and Business was something like $4K, so that's what I'd expect to see (and that's more than I want to spend). Really, I only want to upgrade the outbound EWR-HKG leg, so if there were a way to do that for substantially less than $2300, I'd consider it.

Originally Posted by G-CIVC
And there's actually 'option 4)', another wildcard but I'll need EWR regulars to validate this, sometimes CX may sell you day-of-departure upgrades, not sure if this happens at EWR but sometimes I see offers at ORD, my regular outstation.
I'll be on the lookout for that, for sure.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 1:39 am
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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
No, you cannot.

You have EWR-HKG in E. Your options are
1) Upfare to R (next PE bucket) and upgrade by asia miles subject to availability, 27,500 asia miles one way; or
2) Upfare to I (subject to your ticket fare rules) but the difference is likely to be astronomical.
3) Chance an op up as BA Gold.
This is good recommendation.

Op: #1 might not be too bad, especially for one way. You should check. It might only be $300 USD or do plus the Asia Miles.

This will be really easy if you already have Asia Miles. If you're not an Asia Miles regular, since I don't think any currencies transfer instantaneously to AM, this is more of a pickle.

If you DO have Asia Miles and at least infrequently use them, then keep 30k miles in your account on standby, and then you get the airport ask 1) if biz "Instant Upgrade" award space are available (this is Asia Miles parlance for an Asia Miles upgrade award processed at the airport, instead of in advance), and if so how much the upfare to R is. This would be best.

Because if you aren't an Asia Miles regular, it will suck to transfer the miles to AM only to find out no inventory is available into U (biz award inventory) for the Instant Upgrade.

And as said above, only currency you can use to upgrade CX tickets is Asia Miles.
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Old May 10, 2017 | 6:02 am
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I have no Asia Miles (have never flown CX before). Unless I can create some by transfer Amex or Chase points into a new account, Option 1 is not possible at all. But thank you.
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Old May 21, 2017 | 10:50 pm
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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
Before our other CX regulars (or those that don't fly with CX but somehow tend to masquerade as) chip in, just bear in mind that the statistical likelihood of that happening is going to be tiny.
Well, based on my sample size of n=1, I am absolutely thrilled to report that the statistical likelihood was 100% tonight. I did in fact get upgraded to J upon arrival to EWR (and I did online check-in, too--wasn't expecting this!) My life is immeasurably better right now than it was 30 minutes ago. I was really dreading that long PE flight.
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Old May 21, 2017 | 11:38 pm
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Originally Posted by travelmad478
Well, based on my sample size of n=1, I am absolutely thrilled to report that the statistical likelihood was 100% tonight. I did in fact get upgraded to J upon arrival to EWR (and I did online check-in, too--wasn't expecting this!) My life is immeasurably better right now than it was 30 minutes ago. I was really dreading that long PE flight.
Well, congratulations - I've had good luck (100% in fact) with North America-HKG PE to J op ups when I was OW Sapphire/Emerald last year. Just withhold your excitement and keep the gopros/camera flash away or else the CX FFs will start their eyerolling and bashing, and just enjoy your flight! You will like CX as a BA FF.
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Old May 22, 2017 | 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
Well, congratulations - I've had good luck (100% in fact) with North America-HKG PE to J op ups when I was OW Sapphire/Emerald last year. Just withhold your excitement and keep the gopros/camera flash away or else the CX FFs will start their eyerolling and bashing, and just enjoy your flight! You will like CX as a BA FF.
Not to worry, I am not a yokel (although this being my first CX flight, I did have to ask the FA where they kept the headsets!) I am hoping that 100% holds up for my return flight next week Sadly, no upgrade for my connecting HKG-SIN flight in a few hours, but as that's a much shorter flight I can just about endure it
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This thread is to add questions that commonly come up regarding upgrade on Cathay Pacific.

Please feel free to add questions to the Wikipost at the beginning for common upgrade questions.
Well I have such an experience from my last two trips where I bought round trip tickets (not the upgradable classes with miles, class V) from NYC to Hong Kong and Cathay just upgraded the flight from NYC to Hong Kong for me. But the return flight stays the same. I wonder if they will upgrade my flight again this time. I am flying again on Monday. I wonder why, is that because of my loyalty? I've been member since 2010 and once a gold member.

Anybody knows why?
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 4:57 am
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Can anyone assist and reply with the seat availability for CX828 - 14June; Hubby's booked in E and wondering on capacity and if any chance of OpUp to PE; (MP Green)

He's presently booked in 1st Row Bulkhead Window in E - any reviews/comments on this seat (already checked on SeatGuru)

Much appreciated
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 9:04 am
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I am one world emerald but nothing with CX. Do they offer upgrades at the airport for money instead of Asia Miles? Currently in PE would love to Business (booked flight thru Orbitz).

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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by chitink
I am one world emerald but nothing with CX. Do they offer upgrades at the airport for money instead of Asia Miles? Currently in PE would love to Business (booked flight thru Orbitz).
You can upgrade by paying the fare difference. The sub fare class is what matters. If your fare is non refundable then no. Short of just eating the cost and buying a J ticket. If you paid a lot and are in W class (full fare PEY), the difference might only be 1k USD. But most likely more.

Fyi Asia Miles are only eligible for W and E class upgrades. No E.

There is no let's make a deal, aka a reduced fare upgrade sale.

The status is irrelevant.
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 9:44 am
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I called just now and they said since I booked through Orbitz I can't even pay for an upgrade. Its booked into R class. Does that mean I will also miss out on any tiny chance for an Op up?
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 10:04 am
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I called just now and they said since I booked through Orbitz I can't even pay for an upgrade. Its booked into R class. Does that mean I will also miss out on any tiny chance for an Op up?
Op up isn't affected.

Where are you flying?
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by QRC3288
You can upgrade by paying the fare difference. The sub fare class is what matters. If your fare is non refundable then no. Short of just eating the cost and buying a J ticket. If you paid a lot and are in W class (full fare PEY), the difference might only be 1k USD. But most likely more.

Fyi Asia Miles are only eligible for W and E class upgrades. No E.

There is no let's make a deal, aka a reduced fare upgrade sale.

The status is irrelevant.
Re paying the fare difference to upgrade

Few months before I also thought that the price is J minus [whatever your class fare]... But then I found that IF there's available sub-class for sale...

W / Y fare -> J fare
R / B fare sometimes -> C fare

But how is the mapping done... I don't know...
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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 11:48 am
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Depends on outport On my DoD ORD flight last week they were offering $650 for W to J. It was even shown on the FIDS but seems that there were no takers.
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
Depends on outport On my DoD ORD flight last week they were offering $650 for W to J. It was even shown on the FIDS but seems that there were no takers.
Actually that's a bargain... I paid nearly US$1000 to move my HKG-JFK//YYZ-HKG Y booking to W...

When will they re-launch Enhance?
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