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benyiu Jan 24, 2020 1:26 am

Wow this thread is on fifth page..

Was on NRTHKG on a ticket of eight on coach, a total of four CX GO, three of them was upgraded to W, last one was double upgraded to business.
you know what, the last was asked to bring one more to business together. The former three was like :confused::mad:.

mosfet Jan 24, 2020 9:09 pm

Expert Flyer is showing the below on an upcoming leg to JFK - HKG - AKL.

Booked in PE, chances of an op up as OWE (AA EXP)?

2/4 - CX113
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HKG - AKL
J1 C1 D1 I0 U W0 R0 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0

jabrams72 Aug 10, 2021 6:28 am

Hi all,

Is there any way of checking mileage upgrade possibilities PE to J on LHR-HKG for 14, 15, 16 August?

Thanks in advance!
josh

ernestnywang Aug 10, 2021 8:57 am


Originally Posted by jabrams72 (Post 33479301)
Hi all,

Is there any way of checking mileage upgrade possibilities PE to J on LHR-HKG for 14, 15, 16 August?

Thanks in advance!
josh

If you see U class (J redemption) available, chances are good. However, to confirm, you should call and ask. You might want to book an unticketed (on hold) underlying W or R class reservation first.

etkuo Aug 10, 2021 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by jabrams72 (Post 33479301)
Hi all,

Is there any way of checking mileage upgrade possibilities PE to J on LHR-HKG for 14, 15, 16 August?

Thanks in advance!
josh

Short answer:
Calling and asking is the only reliable way, or if you have an underlying PEY booking (W or R fare) the online tool sometimes work.

Long answer:
In the pre-pandemic days I used to play the R->U mileage upgrade game on YYZ-HKG for several years.
Straight redemption on the website does not have the same availability for mileage upgrade. Many times I have success securing the mileage upgrade when there was no straight redemption available. There might also be one time where straight redemption was able but mileage upgrade was not available for some reasons.

EF availability may or may not help. Many times I secured a mileage upgrade (especially close in) when I fare availability was 0. (e.g. J3 C2 D1 I0)

Bottomline, calling seems to be the only reliable way. Especially once within T-4days or so when waitlist for mileage upgrade is no longer possible.

On the other hand, contrary to certain beliefs, I don't think calling and asking repeatedly will increase the chance of securing the mileage upgrade. All they do is just check the availability I believe.

flyinglan Oct 20, 2022 8:01 am

Could I request Asia miles upgrade at Frankfurt Airport on the day of departure before the flight? Will there agent from Cathay who can process it for me?

Thank you.

etkuo Oct 20, 2022 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by flyinglan (Post 34695805)
Could I request Asia miles upgrade at Frankfurt Airport on the day of departure before the flight? Will there agent from Cathay who can process it for me?

Thank you.

Did it once in IAD pre-covid when the route was around. They used third party agents there and the route/CX operations was relatively new at the time in IAD. They were able to get that done and I didn't recall encountering any significant delays of getting it processed.

flyinglan Oct 22, 2022 7:24 am


Originally Posted by flyinglan (Post 34695805)
Could I request Asia miles upgrade at Frankfurt Airport on the day of departure before the flight? Will there agent from Cathay who can process it for me?

Thank you.

To reply my own question.
The CX Team in Frankfurt was quite competent. EF was showing J2 for the flight departing in 2 hours and I thought i had no chance, but I approached the check-in counter anyway. The supervisor checked the load and said: I need to check if you have the required balance in your account. It was unbeliablely smooth and quick, in no time I was upgraded from W to U.

mucaari Oct 24, 2022 9:18 pm

So just do understand this correctly, upgrade awards book in the same booking classes/fares and therefore have the same availability as direct redemption awards in the desired class?

longtin23 Oct 25, 2022 6:45 am

Any expert here has tried to pay miles/cash upgrade for redemption ticket at check in counter? Specifically for HKG-KIX early November PM flight.

There has been no J/CL redemption availability after checking for almost 2 weeks, but I see flight should be open in business. I will call to AM if there is availability, but just wonder if this is allowed at counter.

FRegular Nov 18, 2022 2:47 pm

Can Asia Miles tickets be changed to move into a higher cabin class on the same flight as the original booking by paying the mileage difference and potentially change fees (preferably without taxes and YQ recalculated)?

percysmith Nov 18, 2022 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by FRegular (Post 34768907)
Can Asia Miles tickets be changed to move into a higher cabin class on the same flight as the original booking by paying the mileage difference and potentially change fees (preferably without taxes and YQ recalculated)?

Reissue fees https://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/show/18885?page=1 #6

Reissue of AM ticket will always result in tax and YQ recalculation regardless of whether you’re travelling on CX or partner metal.

Wonchie Nov 19, 2022 8:23 am

What's thr best mileage program for CX business classbooking
 
Hi,

I am looking for flights to Asia next year and I am curious what's the best and most effective way to book 4 business class tickets. I am new to mileage program, so please excuse my newbie question.

Palty Nov 27, 2022 12:55 pm

Hi all,
I'm looking to upgrade a PE one way leg for 2 to J class from the states to Singapore on cathay (I live in London) using avios pointsis such a thing possible or do I need to have for example a BA coded ticket for me in order to do that any ideas ?TIA

ernestnywang Nov 27, 2022 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by Palty (Post 34788482)
Hi all,
I'm looking to upgrade a PE one way leg for 2 to J class from the states to Singapore on cathay (I live in London) using avios pointsis such a thing possible or do I need to have for example a BA coded ticket for me in order to do that any ideas ?TIA

Not possible using Avios, BA coded or not.

kiokujai Nov 28, 2022 6:18 pm

Booked PY with Alaska mileage. Am I able to use Asia Miles to upgrade at check in if seats are available?

oldfolky Nov 29, 2022 12:41 pm

I have PE flights booked (cash) MEL-HKG-NRT and return and want to upgrade with Asia Miles if possible. At least the MEL-HKG segments.

Currently the outbound MEL-HKG is Y4 W0 J9 and only 1 seat available for 2 to select, so looks promising for an Op-Up, we are OWE/OWS, but would rather transfer and spend the miles to secure.

Currently no award seats available, how long pre departure is the best time to call in for an upgrade?

ernestnywang Dec 1, 2022 4:17 pm


Originally Posted by kiokujai (Post 34791624)
Booked PY with Alaska mileage. Am I able to use Asia Miles to upgrade at check in if seats are available?

No, you are booked in T class, but you need a W class or R class ticket to use Asia Miles to upgrade to Business.

akhk Dec 1, 2022 7:22 pm

I have waitlisted an upgrade from Y to PEY using Asia miles. Should I use my status as a CX silver or OW Emerald? which one has a better chance?
By the way, will it be possible that I can upgrade from Y to J if available?

boybi Dec 1, 2022 11:21 pm

Which has a better chance, use asia miles to book for business class, or pay for PE then upgrade using miles to J? This is for RT HKG-LAX

mucaari Dec 28, 2022 3:49 am

Found the availability for a flight (CX288) as such:

J7 C6 D5 P3 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

Meaning, no Y and E tickets being sold at all, however they are still selling J.


Does it means they basically are overbooked in Y already?

topperdoggle Dec 28, 2022 7:11 am

Hi all, I read the sticky at the top but didn't seem to answer my question. I'm doing LHR->MEL with CX next month. I have a Y ticket but am OW Emerald.

I got the email about reserving seats and did so, however does reserving seats in advance reduce my chances of getting bumped up for an overbooking upgrade? Thanks in advance.

ernestnywang Dec 28, 2022 10:23 am


Originally Posted by mucaari (Post 34870298)
Found the availability for a flight (CX288) as such:

J7 C6 D5 P3 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

Meaning, no Y and E tickets being sold at all, however they are still selling J.


Does it means they basically are overbooked in Y already?

W and Y are fully booked, but not necessarily (though possibly) overbooked.


Originally Posted by topperdoggle (Post 34870597)
Hi all, I read the sticky at the top but didn't seem to answer my question. I'm doing LHR->MEL with CX next month. I have a Y ticket but am OW Emerald.

I got the email about reserving seats and did so, however does reserving seats in advance reduce my chances of getting bumped up for an overbooking upgrade? Thanks in advance.

I don't believe having a seat assignment would hurt your upgrade chance. I always have a seat assigned and still get upgraded from time to time.

Ausriver Dec 30, 2022 5:18 am


Originally Posted by mucaari (Post 34870298)
Found the availability for a flight (CX288) as such:

J7 C6 D5 P3 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

Meaning, no Y and E tickets being sold at all, however they are still selling J.


Does it means they basically are overbooked in Y already?

It is only showing that at the moment CX is not selling Y or W to general public. I've been upgrade using miles at W0 or J0. So no, it does not mean Y is overbooked.

AC340-541 Jan 1, 2023 2:02 am

Does anyone have any (anecdotal) information on how CX handles operational upgrades with a child on the same booking as a status member? Am I passed over automatically (would they assume that the child could not be alone in the lower class cabin)?

Thanks!

dkc192 Feb 13, 2023 5:30 pm

Just to confirm: mileage upgrades are priced by sector, correct? So a LAX-HKG-KUL upgrade to J would require 28k for LAX-HKG (long type 2 PE-J) and 17k for HKG-KUL (short Y-J). Or can I get both sectors for one 35k price (ultra-long PE-J)?

Microtat Feb 13, 2023 9:23 pm


Originally Posted by dkc192 (Post 35009305)
Just to confirm: mileage upgrades are priced by sector, correct? So a LAX-HKG-KUL upgrade to J would require 28k for LAX-HKG (long type 2 PE-J) and 17k for HKG-KUL (short Y-J). Or can I get both sectors for one 35k price (ultra-long PE-J)?

It will be charged separately. I had the same issue, and i was told the deduction of 35K works only if both sectors are pey>j.

hope this helps. :)

hdlz Feb 14, 2023 3:28 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 34799986)
No, you are booked in T class, but you need a W class or R class ticket to use Asia Miles to upgrade to Business.

I have V and L class, are they upgradable using miles?

ernestnywang Feb 19, 2023 8:25 am


Originally Posted by hdlz (Post 35011844)
I have V and L class, are they upgradable using miles?

If not an Economy LIGHT ticket, yes. See https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...onditions.html, under "Flight Awards – Upgrade Award, Airport Upgrade Awards and Inflight Upgrade Awards"

matio_svk Feb 25, 2023 3:16 pm

First time flying with CX, so I would be grateful to have my expectations set realistic...
Snatched a good premium eco fare to HKG from Europe for end of April and I am interested in mile-upgrading LHR-HKG (wishful thinking ) with Asia Miles, I was told by the CX hotline, that an upgrade to C would cost 25k oneway (which is fine), but there is no availability at the moment...
Give that I have no experience with CX, is it even realistic that some inventory will open up and if so, is there some pattern (weeks before, lastminute..etc) of I should just check every day..

Thanks

ernestnywang Mar 1, 2023 10:42 am


Originally Posted by matio_svk (Post 35041533)
First time flying with CX, so I would be grateful to have my expectations set realistic...
Snatched a good premium eco fare to HKG from Europe for end of April and I am interested in mile-upgrading LHR-HKG (wishful thinking ) with Asia Miles, I was told by the CX hotline, that an upgrade to C would cost 25k oneway (which is fine), but there is no availability at the moment...
Give that I have no experience with CX, is it even realistic that some inventory will open up and if so, is there some pattern (weeks before, lastminute..etc) of I should just check every day..

Thanks

You can waitlist, assuming you have miles readily available.

matio_svk Mar 1, 2023 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35052318)
You can waitlist, assuming you have miles readily available.

I have a credit card with points which can transfer to CX points, but I find it risky to transfer them until I would use them

mach9103 Mar 1, 2023 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by matio_svk (Post 35041533)
First time flying with CX, so I would be grateful to have my expectations set realistic...
Snatched a good premium eco fare to HKG from Europe for end of April and I am interested in mile-upgrading LHR-HKG (wishful thinking ) with Asia Miles, I was told by the CX hotline, that an upgrade to C would cost 25k oneway (which is fine), but there is no availability at the moment...
Give that I have no experience with CX, is it even realistic that some inventory will open up and if so, is there some pattern (weeks before, lastminute..etc) of I should just check every day..

Thanks

What was the price you paid for the return if I may ask?

matio_svk Mar 2, 2023 6:04 am


Originally Posted by mach9103 (Post 35053751)
What was the price you paid for the return if I may ask?

VIE>LHR>HKG>LHR>VIE, around 770 Euros RT, imho very good price for premium eco

mach9103 Mar 2, 2023 6:11 am


Originally Posted by matio_svk (Post 35054768)
VIE>LHR>HKG>LHR>VIE, around 770 Euros RT, imho very good price for premium eco

Yeah that is a really good price. I rarely see PE below ~1300 EUR, even economy class tickets to AMS (Schiphol) start at like 1000 EUR.

beach86 Mar 27, 2023 12:23 am

I have an upgrade certification to use (mid-tier benefit). ExpertFlyer showing F1A0. I have submitted an online request and had it denied. Is it worth to submit again closer to the date? Any magical timeframe or is F class never going to clear? Thanks.

G-CIVC Mar 28, 2023 8:51 am

If you have EF then just set an alert for A class and check in periodically.
Do note that if it's within 72 hours then you'd be out of luck...

wyskevin Mar 28, 2023 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by beach86 (Post 35119484)
I have an upgrade certification to use (mid-tier benefit). ExpertFlyer showing F1A0. I have submitted an online request and had it denied. Is it worth to submit again closer to the date? Any magical timeframe or is F class never going to clear? Thanks.

I suggest to phone the agent, play " I am DM" card, and politely request agent to release a first class seat for you.
CX might surprise you. ( It works for me most of time anyway. )

calcio1 May 16, 2023 9:21 pm

what is the average waitlist time these days to see if an upgrade request has been successful?

midlevels May 16, 2023 9:56 pm


Originally Posted by wyskevin (Post 35125288)
I suggest to phone the agent, play " I am DM" card, and politely request agent to release a first class seat for you.
CX might surprise you. ( It works for me most of time anyway. )

Depends from agent to agent by asking nicely if an award seat can be released for a DM does work from time to time.


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