Two stopovers, two transits or one openjaw
#17
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: CXSL
Posts: 35
Thanks both.
Any idea how to explain this to the agent. They insist LHR//MXP is another stopover, but in fact I have already reach the destination, by quoting this from website
Stopover
This is when you stop in a third place en route before you reach your final destination.
Surprisingly, I searched around Asiamiles website and found the following
Round-trip Award
With this award two stopovers, two transfers and one open-jaw (at origin, en route or turnaround point) - are permitted.
It uses "AND" instead of "OR", which contradicts to the award chart page where we usually look at. Great.
Let me have another call the agent.
Any idea how to explain this to the agent. They insist LHR//MXP is another stopover, but in fact I have already reach the destination, by quoting this from website
Stopover
This is when you stop in a third place en route before you reach your final destination.
Surprisingly, I searched around Asiamiles website and found the following
Round-trip Award
With this award two stopovers, two transfers and one open-jaw (at origin, en route or turnaround point) - are permitted.
It uses "AND" instead of "OR", which contradicts to the award chart page where we usually look at. Great.
Let me have another call the agent.
Last edited by useatnet; Aug 15, 2013 at 10:03 am
#18
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 755
calling again may help. I would suggest you to insist the agent to send the routing to the ticketing desk, and the ticketing desk is experienced enough to let it through.
there is no "destination" in a redemption booking, it will either be a stopover or an openjaw... but both airports in an openjaw does not count as stopover.
there is no "destination" in a redemption booking, it will either be a stopover or an openjaw... but both airports in an openjaw does not count as stopover.
#19
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: CXSL
Posts: 35
Finally I called again, and successfully made the below reservation
ICN-oHKG-LHR//MXP-oHKG-ICN
The Cantonese agent (Tsuen Wan centre) was indeed helpful without challenging the routing.
In addition, she gave me advice that if outbound is clear while inbound is still waitlisting, one can first redeem the outbound as one-way ticket (deducting one-way miles requirement), and once inbound clears, tickets it and deduct another one-way miles requirement. Upon completion, Asiamiles will credit the difference of two one-ways and one return to my account, i.e.
HKG-ICN (-20,000 miles)
ICN-HKG (-20,000 miles)
Upon trip completion, credit back 10,000 (= 30,000-20,000-20,000) to the account
Anyone tried this? is it new or "old news is so exciting"?
ICN-oHKG-LHR//MXP-oHKG-ICN
The Cantonese agent (Tsuen Wan centre) was indeed helpful without challenging the routing.
In addition, she gave me advice that if outbound is clear while inbound is still waitlisting, one can first redeem the outbound as one-way ticket (deducting one-way miles requirement), and once inbound clears, tickets it and deduct another one-way miles requirement. Upon completion, Asiamiles will credit the difference of two one-ways and one return to my account, i.e.
HKG-ICN (-20,000 miles)
ICN-HKG (-20,000 miles)
Upon trip completion, credit back 10,000 (= 30,000-20,000-20,000) to the account
Anyone tried this? is it new or "old news is so exciting"?
#22
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
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#23
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: hong kong
Programs: Centurion, Lan Platinum, ANA Mileage Club, HHonors D, SPG G
Posts: 401
Just spent 2+ hours on the phone with the agents on the Asia Miles line. They had me more confused than anything to a point where I questioned my own knowledge
Long story short
Round trip ticket
HKG-PVG (stopover)- NRT (Stopover)- ICN (destination)-HKG
is valid right? I kept getting the runaround that I can only book the ticket with two stops in total i.e. HKG-PVT-NRT-HKG
Long story short
Round trip ticket
HKG-PVG (stopover)- NRT (Stopover)- ICN (destination)-HKG
is valid right? I kept getting the runaround that I can only book the ticket with two stops in total i.e. HKG-PVT-NRT-HKG
#24
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond / SQ Gold / Bonvoy Platinum / Hyatt Globalist / Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,098
Your itinerary violates the rules. You have 3 stopovers. PVG, NRT and ICN.
There's no such thing as a "destination". Every city in your itinerary after the originating city is either a stopover, transit, or open jaw.
If you stay in PVG, NRT or ICN for less than 24 hours, then it will be a transit. Anything more than 24 hours is a stopover.
There's no such thing as a "destination". Every city in your itinerary after the originating city is either a stopover, transit, or open jaw.
If you stay in PVG, NRT or ICN for less than 24 hours, then it will be a transit. Anything more than 24 hours is a stopover.
Last edited by Psychiatrist; Aug 28, 2014 at 7:55 am
#25
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: hong kong
Programs: Centurion, Lan Platinum, ANA Mileage Club, HHonors D, SPG G
Posts: 401
Your itinerary violates the rules. You have 3 stopovers. PVG, NRT and ICN.
There's no such thing as a "destination". Every city in your itinerary after the originating city is either a stopover, transit, or open jaw.
If you stay in PVG, NRT or ICN for less than 24 hours, then it will be a transit. Anything more than 24 hours is a stopover.
There's no such thing as a "destination". Every city in your itinerary after the originating city is either a stopover, transit, or open jaw.
If you stay in PVG, NRT or ICN for less than 24 hours, then it will be a transit. Anything more than 24 hours is a stopover.
#26
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 51
Hello, i am new here. And i have amassed 130k miles and i want to redeem an economy multicarrier award ticket from asia miles. I have a few destinations in mind, but i first want to ask some terminologies. What do you mean by: transfers? I understand the 25-35k mile range allows 5 stopover, 2 transfers, 2 open jaws ? I want to maximize this to allow visiting as many places as possible. What could be an example of this technique?
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hnd-ohkg-olhr-ojfk-oyvr-olhr-xhkg-xtpe-icn//lax-lhr//hkg-cts
Hello, i am new here. And i have amassed 130k miles and i want to redeem an economy multicarrier award ticket from asia miles. I have a few destinations in mind, but i first want to ask some terminologies. What do you mean by: transfers? I understand the 25-35k mile range allows 5 stopover, 2 transfers, 2 open jaws ? I want to maximize this to allow visiting as many places as possible. What could be an example of this technique?
#28
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,172
Hi please help if this OK.
Possibility 1----HND-(o)LHR-(x)Dus-(o-turnaround point)HKG-(o)LHR-(x)HKG-HND
This should be 2 stopovers, 2 transfers, one turnaround point and no openjaw. I will be using CX/BA/JL.
Or else what about this?
Possibility 2 ----HND-(o)LHR//Dus-(o-turnaround point)HKG-(o)LHR-(x)HKG-HND
This should be 2 stopovers,1 transfer, one turnaround point and one openjaw. I will be using CX/JL.
Thank you very much.
Possibility 1----HND-(o)LHR-(x)Dus-(o-turnaround point)HKG-(o)LHR-(x)HKG-HND
This should be 2 stopovers, 2 transfers, one turnaround point and no openjaw. I will be using CX/BA/JL.
Or else what about this?
Possibility 2 ----HND-(o)LHR//Dus-(o-turnaround point)HKG-(o)LHR-(x)HKG-HND
This should be 2 stopovers,1 transfer, one turnaround point and one openjaw. I will be using CX/JL.
Thank you very much.
#29
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Hi please help if this OK.
Possibility 1----HND-(o)LHR-(x)Dus-(o-turnaround point)HKG-(o)LHR-(x)HKG-HND
This should be 2 stopovers, 2 transfers, one turnaround point and no openjaw. I will be using CX/BA/JL.
Or else what about this?
Possibility 2 ----HND-(o)LHR//Dus-(o-turnaround point)HKG-(o)LHR-(x)HKG-HND
This should be 2 stopovers,1 transfer, one turnaround point and one openjaw. I will be using CX/JL.
Thank you very much.
Possibility 1----HND-(o)LHR-(x)Dus-(o-turnaround point)HKG-(o)LHR-(x)HKG-HND
This should be 2 stopovers, 2 transfers, one turnaround point and no openjaw. I will be using CX/BA/JL.
Or else what about this?
Possibility 2 ----HND-(o)LHR//Dus-(o-turnaround point)HKG-(o)LHR-(x)HKG-HND
This should be 2 stopovers,1 transfer, one turnaround point and one openjaw. I will be using CX/JL.
Thank you very much.
possibility 2 ur lhr//dus is NOT a stopover. It can only be an openjaw (which it is) or a stopover, but not both.