E class coming!
#17




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Premium economy awards, and upgrades from premium economy to business, now seem to be available
http://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts
No price for economy to premium economy though
http://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts
No price for economy to premium economy though
#18

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Loking at upcoming bookings for myself, Y+ is only $200AUD HKD more than a K class Y ticket, so ill probably choose Y+ to try.
You can still upgrade from Y to J though the miles needed are the same for Y+ to J which doesnt make sense.
You can still upgrade from Y to J though the miles needed are the same for Y+ to J which doesnt make sense.
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But if your flight has Y+ you can only upgrade one class at a time ie you can't upgrade Y->J if your flight has Y+
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My understanding from the last time I communicated with an agent is that should a flight have Y+ available, you can only do a Y+ to J upgrade, and not a Y to J upgrade.
#21
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A question that might be off the topic...
Say if I get a PE ticket have my trip confirmed, CX changed the aircraft at the last minute and the new plane does not have PE seats... where am I going to sit?
Back to Economy I am afraid? Is that a reasonable complaint if CX does this to Y+ SLCs?
Say if I get a PE ticket have my trip confirmed, CX changed the aircraft at the last minute and the new plane does not have PE seats... where am I going to sit?
Back to Economy I am afraid? Is that a reasonable complaint if CX does this to Y+ SLCs?
#22

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I think the indication that CX was giving was that if your flight has Y+, once upgrades to Y+ are available (which won't be until later this year), the number of miles will be the same for Y->Y+ as Y->J which is disappointing.
But if your flight has Y+ you can only upgrade one class at a time ie you can't upgrade Y->J if your flight has Y+
But if your flight has Y+ you can only upgrade one class at a time ie you can't upgrade Y->J if your flight has Y+
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#24
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SLC = Self Loading Cargo (a.k.a passengers) - I know it's very pessimistic but that sometimes describes the airline's attitude to pax especially when you complain.
Good point - I thought of F to J involuntary downgrade case but this is based on a fact that there is no upper class for F to upgrade to... when aircraft changes CX has to downgrade F SLCs to J cos that's the only best available product they could offer.
Y+ is different... it can be downgraded to Y, it also can be upgraded to J if CX decides to do so... that's where my question comes from... CX is different from QF - I haven't heard of QF sold a Y+ ticket but unable to deliver the product...only CX starts to sell Y+ tickets when only one or a few of their aircraft carry this product and can't guarantee its delivery.
#25
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checked this on CX's website using some random dates in Sept 2012.
JFK -> HKG Tues Sept 4th
HKG -> JFK Tues Sept 18th
Premium Economy Standard (E): $1975.76 USD
Premium Economy Flex (W): $5759.76 USD
If I am not mistaken, the E class fare is simply the same as what used to be the R class fare. No further discounts compared to the "standard" PE fare before they introduced E class. Looks like this is simply a label change.
As a comparison, this is $367 higher than an H class (Economy Standard) fare.
JFK -> HKG Tues Sept 4th
HKG -> JFK Tues Sept 18th
Premium Economy Standard (E): $1975.76 USD
Premium Economy Flex (W): $5759.76 USD
If I am not mistaken, the E class fare is simply the same as what used to be the R class fare. No further discounts compared to the "standard" PE fare before they introduced E class. Looks like this is simply a label change.
As a comparison, this is $367 higher than an H class (Economy Standard) fare.
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Sorry ernestnywang, it's a black humour and I thought it's widely shared in FT but maybe only in other airlines' forum if you haven't seen this - I certainly didn't intend to confuse you.
SLC = Self Loading Cargo (a.k.a passengers) - I know it's very pessimistic but that sometimes describes the airline's attitude to pax especially when you complain.
Good point - I thought of F to J involuntary downgrade case but this is based on a fact that there is no upper class for F to upgrade to... when aircraft changes CX has to downgrade F SLCs to J cos that's the only best available product they could offer.
Y+ is different... it can be downgraded to Y, it also can be upgraded to J if CX decides to do so... that's where my question comes from... CX is different from QF - I haven't heard of QF sold a Y+ ticket but unable to deliver the product...only CX starts to sell Y+ tickets when only one or a few of their aircraft carry this product and can't guarantee its delivery.
SLC = Self Loading Cargo (a.k.a passengers) - I know it's very pessimistic but that sometimes describes the airline's attitude to pax especially when you complain.
Good point - I thought of F to J involuntary downgrade case but this is based on a fact that there is no upper class for F to upgrade to... when aircraft changes CX has to downgrade F SLCs to J cos that's the only best available product they could offer.
Y+ is different... it can be downgraded to Y, it also can be upgraded to J if CX decides to do so... that's where my question comes from... CX is different from QF - I haven't heard of QF sold a Y+ ticket but unable to deliver the product...only CX starts to sell Y+ tickets when only one or a few of their aircraft carry this product and can't guarantee its delivery.

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If you are putting miles to AA follow AA's rule. E should earn miles in any participating programmes anyway. CX's website has many glitches and E is a new thing that has probably not been fully updated.
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