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ernestnywang May 12, 2012 10:10 am

E class coming!
 
According to TPECX's news to travel agents, E class will be added as another Premium Economy class effective 30MAY, after R class.

CrazyJ82 May 13, 2012 2:12 am

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but is E a (discount) revenue or award class? It's not on the earning chart as of right now, and would also coincide with when they've said Y+ will become available for redemption, so I wondered.

dai0906 May 13, 2012 5:07 am

According to my TA staff in BKK, effective for issuineg from 28May and for departure from 30May, PY class RBD will be changed as follows,

W class -> R class
R class -> E class

Prices and conditions are remain same.

ernestnywang May 14, 2012 1:12 am


Originally Posted by CrazyJ82 (Post 18564914)
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but is E a (discount) revenue or award class? It's not on the earning chart as of right now, and would also coincide with when they've said Y+ will become available for redemption, so I wondered.

discount revenue.

percysmith May 14, 2012 2:44 am

Looking around the various Asia Miles partner airlines, W is the established code for (full priced) Premium Economy, much like Y for Economy, J for Business and F for First right?

Cathay Boy May 14, 2012 9:31 am

If the Economy is in a down turn, I wonder how many people will fly Y+, especially long-haul. Usually if you are rich or on company tab you fly J, if you are paying out of your pocket, unless there's a strong reason for a superior product in Y+ (which CX doesn't offer), then you fly Y. I am simply wondering if Y+ will be just another layer of op-up cabin for oversold Y. I still think it's a bad decision to go with 2-4-2 instead of 2-3-2, I think many people would gladly pay double Y fare for 2-3-2.

midlevels May 14, 2012 10:24 am


Originally Posted by Cathay Boy (Post 18571677)
If the Economy is in a down turn, I wonder how many people will fly Y+, especially long-haul. Usually if you are rich or on company tab you fly J

My company will fly me in Y+ long haul, but not J. I fly to Europe on BA because they have Y+ but I may now switch to CX instead for my Europe business-related travel.

sxc May 16, 2012 1:14 am

I find it hard to believe that CX will change W -> R, and R -> E so soon after their introduction, and the fact that W R classes are kind of an industry standard.

BA and QF have W/R/T classes for premium economy. I suspect that CX is going to have W/R/E.

sxc May 16, 2012 1:39 am

I just found this in the T&C of one of the double asia miles promotions, so it looks like E class will co-exist with W & R:


This offer is only applicable to travel in eligible fare classes W, R and E (Premium Economy Class). Fare classes not listed are not eligible for this offer.Fare class E will be effective from June 2012.

ernestnywang May 16, 2012 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 18583759)
I find it hard to believe that CX will change W -> R, and R -> E so soon after their introduction, and the fact that W R classes are kind of an industry standard.

BA and QF have W/R/T classes for premium economy. I suspect that CX is going to have W/R/E.

W will be full fare Y+.

sxc May 16, 2012 6:49 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 18589386)
W will be full fare Y+.

W already is full fare Y+

ernestnywang May 17, 2012 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 18589400)
W already is full fare Y+

Right now CX publishes both W published fare (full fare) and W nett fare. The latter will become R whereas the previous R will become E.

midlevels May 18, 2012 12:15 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 18597456)
Right now CX publishes both W published fare (full fare) and W nett fare. The latter will become R whereas the previous R will become E.

That's disappointing news. I was hoping that E would bring in cheaper Y+ fares as I thought that some of the routes were way overpriced.

CrazyJ82 May 18, 2012 2:35 am


Originally Posted by midlevels (Post 18597506)
That's disappointing news. I was hoping that E would bring in cheaper Y+ fares as I thought that some of the routes were way overpriced.

I'm not giving up hope yet. I've suspected that the past couple months have been an early experiment for CX revenue management to figure out exactly how many full fare Y+ seats they can realistically expect to sell. They did marketing surveys before they rolled it out, but asking people whether they would pay x amount for something is different from seeing whether they really do.

If they're starting to get a clearer idea on that, maybe they'll start being willing to offer more discounted fares.

ernestnywang May 30, 2012 10:28 am

Here it comes!


131MAYHKGJFK¤CX«

31MAY THU HKG/Z¥8 JFK/EDT-12
CX RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **
13CX 888 F0 A0 J3 C3 D3 I3 HKGJFK 0030 0700 77W 1
W3 R3 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 O0
14CX 830 F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 I9 HKGJFK 0920 1310 77W 0
Y6 B6 H6 K5 M5 L4 V4 S2 N1 Q1 O1
15CX 840 F1 A1 J6 C6 D5 I5 HKGJFK 1610 2010 77W 0
W9 R9 E9 Y1 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 O0
16CX 846 F3 A0 J0 C0 D0 I0 HKGJFK 1845 2240 77W 0
Y1 B1 H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 O0


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