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sxc May 30, 2012 7:05 pm

The asiamiles earning table has been updated so that W/R/E all earn 110% of miles.

peasant May 30, 2012 7:20 pm

Premium economy awards, and upgrades from premium economy to business, now seem to be available

http://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts

No price for economy to premium economy though

hau cheng May 30, 2012 8:01 pm

Loking at upcoming bookings for myself, Y+ is only $200AUD HKD more than a K class Y ticket, so ill probably choose Y+ to try.

You can still upgrade from Y to J though the miles needed are the same for Y+ to J which doesnt make sense.

sxc May 30, 2012 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by hau cheng (Post 18670219)
Loking at upcoming bookings for myself, Y+ is only $200AUD HKD more than a K class Y ticket, so ill probably choose Y+ to try.

You can still upgrade from Y to J though the miles needed are the same for Y+ to J which doesnt make sense.

I think the indication that CX was giving was that if your flight has Y+, once upgrades to Y+ are available (which won't be until later this year), the number of miles will be the same for Y->Y+ as Y->J which is disappointing.

But if your flight has Y+ you can only upgrade one class at a time ie you can't upgrade Y->J if your flight has Y+

b-kpf May 30, 2012 8:05 pm


Originally Posted by hau cheng (Post 18670219)
You can still upgrade from Y to J though the miles needed are the same for Y+ to J which doesnt make sense.

My understanding from the last time I communicated with an agent is that should a flight have Y+ available, you can only do a Y+ to J upgrade, and not a Y to J upgrade.

kamiao May 30, 2012 8:56 pm

A question that might be off the topic...

Say if I get a PE ticket have my trip confirmed, CX changed the aircraft at the last minute and the new plane does not have PE seats... where am I going to sit?

Back to Economy I am afraid? Is that a reasonable complaint if CX does this to Y+ SLCs?

hau cheng May 30, 2012 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 18670228)
I think the indication that CX was giving was that if your flight has Y+, once upgrades to Y+ are available (which won't be until later this year), the number of miles will be the same for Y->Y+ as Y->J which is disappointing.

But if your flight has Y+ you can only upgrade one class at a time ie you can't upgrade Y->J if your flight has Y+

Thanks. Chances are on the routes I mainly fly that they will have Y+

ernestnywang May 31, 2012 12:21 am


Originally Posted by kamiao (Post 18670489)
Back to Economy I am afraid? Is that a reasonable complaint if CX does this to Y+ SLCs?

Don't know what SLC means but chances are compensation scheme similar to those that suffer F to J involuntary downgrade will be provided?

kamiao May 31, 2012 2:18 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 18671251)
Don't know what SLC means but chances are compensation scheme similar to those that suffer F to J involuntary downgrade will be provided?

Sorry ernestnywang, it's a black humour and I thought it's widely shared in FT but maybe only in other airlines' forum if you haven't seen this - I certainly didn't intend to confuse you.

SLC = Self Loading Cargo (a.k.a passengers) - I know it's very pessimistic but that sometimes describes the airline's attitude to pax especially when you complain.

Good point - I thought of F to J involuntary downgrade case but this is based on a fact that there is no upper class for F to upgrade to... when aircraft changes CX has to downgrade F SLCs to J cos that's the only best available product they could offer.

Y+ is different... it can be downgraded to Y, it also can be upgraded to J if CX decides to do so... that's where my question comes from... CX is different from QF - I haven't heard of QF sold a Y+ ticket but unable to deliver the product...only CX starts to sell Y+ tickets when only one or a few of their aircraft carry this product and can't guarantee its delivery. ;)

Zodiac May 31, 2012 4:12 am

checked this on CX's website using some random dates in Sept 2012.

JFK -> HKG Tues Sept 4th

HKG -> JFK Tues Sept 18th

Premium Economy Standard (E): $1975.76 USD

Premium Economy Flex (W): $5759.76 USD

If I am not mistaken, the E class fare is simply the same as what used to be the R class fare. No further discounts compared to the "standard" PE fare before they introduced E class. Looks like this is simply a label change.

As a comparison, this is $367 higher than an H class (Economy Standard) fare.

ernestnywang May 31, 2012 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by kamiao (Post 18671512)
Sorry ernestnywang, it's a black humour and I thought it's widely shared in FT but maybe only in other airlines' forum if you haven't seen this - I certainly didn't intend to confuse you.

SLC = Self Loading Cargo (a.k.a passengers) - I know it's very pessimistic but that sometimes describes the airline's attitude to pax especially when you complain.

Good point - I thought of F to J involuntary downgrade case but this is based on a fact that there is no upper class for F to upgrade to... when aircraft changes CX has to downgrade F SLCs to J cos that's the only best available product they could offer.

Y+ is different... it can be downgraded to Y, it also can be upgraded to J if CX decides to do so... that's where my question comes from... CX is different from QF - I haven't heard of QF sold a Y+ ticket but unable to deliver the product...only CX starts to sell Y+ tickets when only one or a few of their aircraft carry this product and can't guarantee its delivery. ;)

Got you! Thanks!

ernestnywang May 31, 2012 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by Zodiac (Post 18671778)
If I am not mistaken, the E class fare is simply the same as what used to be the R class fare. No further discounts compared to the "standard" PE fare before they introduced E class. Looks like this is simply a label change.

Yes.

pilotx500 Jun 3, 2012 5:46 pm

Slightly confused here. I am planning a trip from JFK to SYD. Will the new E code earn AAdvantage miles? On AA's website it says yes, on CX's it says no...

ernestnywang Jun 4, 2012 2:31 am


Originally Posted by pilotx500 (Post 18691674)
Slightly confused here. I am planning a trip from JFK to SYD. Will the new E code earn AAdvantage miles? On AA's website it says yes, on CX's it says no...

If you are putting miles to AA follow AA's rule. E should earn miles in any participating programmes anyway. CX's website has many glitches and E is a new thing that has probably not been fully updated.

pilotx500 Jun 5, 2012 9:12 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 18693340)
If you are putting miles to AA follow AA's rule. E should earn miles in any participating programmes anyway. CX's website has many glitches and E is a new thing that has probably not been fully updated.

Thanks!


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