New Destinations for CX
Jun 8, 2011, 9:43 am
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New Destinations for CX
which of the following new destinations are good for CX to launch after launching HKG-ORD route?
1.HKG-Dallas, non-stop, B777-300ER (To better match AA main hub)
2.HKG-Munich, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To match Air Berlin's joining to Oneworld, and to compete with *A member - LH)
3.HKG-Manchester, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER
4.HKG-London (Gatwick), non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To add London Flights despite of lack of slots in Heathrow)
Suggested Frequencies:
1,3&4.1xDaily
2.4xWeekly
1.HKG-Dallas, non-stop, B777-300ER (To better match AA main hub)
2.HKG-Munich, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To match Air Berlin's joining to Oneworld, and to compete with *A member - LH)
3.HKG-Manchester, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER
4.HKG-London (Gatwick), non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To add London Flights despite of lack of slots in Heathrow)
Suggested Frequencies:
1,3&4.1xDaily
2.4xWeekly
Jun 8, 2011, 10:39 am
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which of the following new destinations are good for CX to launch after launching HKG-ORD route?
1.HKG-Dallas, non-stop, B777-300ER (To better match AA main hub)
2.HKG-Munich, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To match Air Berlin's joining to Oneworld, and to compete with *A member - LH)
3.HKG-Manchester, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER
4.HKG-London (Gatwick), non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To add London Flights despite of lack of slots in Heathrow)
Suggested Frequencies:
1,3&4.1xDaily
2.4xWeekly
1.HKG-Dallas, non-stop, B777-300ER (To better match AA main hub)
2.HKG-Munich, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To match Air Berlin's joining to Oneworld, and to compete with *A member - LH)
3.HKG-Manchester, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER
4.HKG-London (Gatwick), non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To add London Flights despite of lack of slots in Heathrow)
Suggested Frequencies:
1,3&4.1xDaily
2.4xWeekly
2, No it would be only either Berlin or Dusseldorf.
3, Manchester will not be non-stop. Will be with a stop in Moscow or Geneva.
4, Never. The facility in Gatwick is not uptodate. The extra cost is greater than add one Heathrow flight.
Jun 8, 2011, 10:45 am
#3
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which of the following new destinations are good for CX to launch after launching HKG-ORD route?
1.HKG-Dallas, non-stop, B777-300ER (To better match AA main hub)
2.HKG-Munich, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To match Air Berlin's joining to Oneworld, and to compete with *A member - LH)
3.HKG-Manchester, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER
4.HKG-London (Gatwick), non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To add London Flights despite of lack of slots in Heathrow)
Suggested Frequencies:
1,3&4.1xDaily
2.4xWeekly
1.HKG-Dallas, non-stop, B777-300ER (To better match AA main hub)
2.HKG-Munich, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To match Air Berlin's joining to Oneworld, and to compete with *A member - LH)
3.HKG-Manchester, non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER
4.HKG-London (Gatwick), non-stop, A340-300/B777-300ER (To add London Flights despite of lack of slots in Heathrow)
Suggested Frequencies:
1,3&4.1xDaily
2.4xWeekly
1. HKG-EWR
2. HKG-PHL
3. HKG-ABE
It's good to dream.....
Jun 8, 2011, 11:07 am
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1. HKG - MAN via Moscow would probably be more attractive than via Geneva. Even if it was to go via Switzerland, I think CX would look at ZRH first. (Direct would be ideal but I don't think there's enough demand to justify daily rotation).
2. CX would not look at HKG - LGW. It would instead look at adding capacity into LHR, slot permitting.
2. CX would not look at HKG - LGW. It would instead look at adding capacity into LHR, slot permitting.
Jun 8, 2011, 4:38 pm
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As Cathay Boy said, "as long as we're dreaming..."
LAX-LHR/LGW
Then, maybe, we could avoid BA's exorbitant YQ fees and still get excellent F class service.
LAX-LHR/LGW
Then, maybe, we could avoid BA's exorbitant YQ fees and still get excellent F class service.
Jun 8, 2011, 5:10 pm
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Well, as long as we're dreaming from this end too:
HKG-SUB to be 2x daily
PDX-HKG 3x a week?
One can only hope..
HKG-SUB to be 2x daily
PDX-HKG 3x a week?
One can only hope..
Jun 8, 2011, 9:34 pm
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HKG-EZE-GRU
HKG-MFM
LHR-JFK
LCY-(Europe)
Japan red-eyes
HKG-MFM
LHR-JFK
LCY-(Europe)
Japan red-eyes
Jun 8, 2011, 10:16 pm
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Add Barcelona, Madrid, Zurich, Istanbul, Cairo, Cape Town. Maybe Dallas, Hyderabad, Las Vegas, Seattle but those are not really a priority for them.
Jun 8, 2011, 11:58 pm
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1. HKG - WUX (Wuxi) At least one daily frequency, please.
2. ICN/GMP - PVG/SHA (-HKG?) Any solution would be acceptable to have Oneworld flights preferably on CX/KA metal between China and Korea.
3. Codeshares with Air Berlin on German domestic flights
That's what I wish for Christmas.
2. ICN/GMP - PVG/SHA (-HKG?) Any solution would be acceptable to have Oneworld flights preferably on CX/KA metal between China and Korea.
3. Codeshares with Air Berlin on German domestic flights
That's what I wish for Christmas.
Jun 9, 2011, 12:54 am
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I'm actually quite surprised that neither Hong Kong nor Macau have direct flights to Vegas for a bunch of reasons:
1. Last time I went to Vegas, most of the dealers I saw and heard around Fremont Street were Cantonese speakers which means that at least some have a connection to southern China and probably make the odd trip from time to time.
2. There must be demand from the casinos themselves to move staff around.
3. Mainlanders who come down to gamble in Macau might also want to go on a North American gambling binge.
4. Chinese people, in general and stereotypically, love to gamble.
1. Last time I went to Vegas, most of the dealers I saw and heard around Fremont Street were Cantonese speakers which means that at least some have a connection to southern China and probably make the odd trip from time to time.
2. There must be demand from the casinos themselves to move staff around.
3. Mainlanders who come down to gamble in Macau might also want to go on a North American gambling binge.
4. Chinese people, in general and stereotypically, love to gamble.
Jun 9, 2011, 1:16 am
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Jun 9, 2011, 1:29 am
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No, because the entire 77W does not have enough range to reachable in EZE. Besides, I think CX will have to flying one-stop in SYD or AKL to get refuel the plane. Due to weight restrictions. The 77W cannot handle enough the fuel. Because it was more than 11458 mi and there is no ULH aircraft. I think CX will have stop in JNB to get refuel the plane is more convenient instead of going to SYD or AKL. It will much easier to flying one-stop in JNB to get refuel the plane. If there is a fifth freedom traffic rights through HKG-JNB-EZE.
Jun 9, 2011, 2:00 am
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No, because the entire 77W does not have enough range to reachable in EZE. Besides, I think CX will have to flying one-stop in SYD or AKL to get refuel the plane. Due to weight restrictions. The 77W cannot handle enough the fuel. Because it was more than 11458 mi and there is no ULH aircraft. I think CX will have stop in JNB to get refuel the plane is more convenient instead of going to SYD or AKL. It will much easier to flying one-stop in JNB to get refuel the plane. If there is a fifth freedom traffic rights through HKG-JNB-EZE.
pumping more ideas: SYD-JNB
PEK/SHA-GMP/HND/KIX/TPE (KA)
PEK/SHA-AMS/CDG/FRA/ZRH-LCY (Cathay Connect hub at LCY)
also LCY-LIS/EDI/MAN/DUB/JFK
Jun 9, 2011, 2:09 am
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No, because the entire 77W does not have enough range to reachable in EZE. Besides, I think CX will have to flying one-stop in SYD or AKL to get refuel the plane. Due to weight restrictions. The 77W cannot handle enough the fuel. Because it was more than 11458 mi and there is no ULH aircraft. I think CX will have stop in JNB to get refuel the plane is more convenient instead of going to SYD or AKL. It will much easier to flying one-stop in JNB to get refuel the plane. If there is a fifth freedom traffic rights through HKG-JNB-EZE.
1. External fuel tanks
2. Mid-air refueling
3. Replace cabin with one giant fuel tank..
Jun 9, 2011, 8:23 am
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CX to dominate the world
LHR-JFK just nice to have, BA and AA already have sufficient OW coverage
HKG-DFW
then to South America,
AMS-GRU only KL now
JNB-GRU only SA now
LAX-GRU only KE now
together adding up to 7 frequencies
And what about
HKG-MEX and HKG-MIA (pushing the range of the 777-300ERs!
LHR-JFK just nice to have, BA and AA already have sufficient OW coverage
HKG-DFW
then to South America,
AMS-GRU only KL now
JNB-GRU only SA now
LAX-GRU only KE now
together adding up to 7 frequencies
And what about
HKG-MEX and HKG-MIA (pushing the range of the 777-300ERs!