Keep taking CX after getting DM?
#1
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX DM, CO Gold
Posts: 13
Keep taking CX after getting DM?
I achieved DM in the eighth month of my membership year. I won't clock up enough revenue to make DM+. For the remaining four months of my membership year, is there any reason I should keep flying on CX, other than schedule convenience and possibility of upgrades? Or should I try to get Gold on Star Alliance instead?
Thanks in advance to all you FlyerTalk experts for your advice!
Thanks in advance to all you FlyerTalk experts for your advice!
Last edited by flyhighhk; Aug 26, 2010 at 4:53 am
#2
Join Date: Jul 2010
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If you could get gold/preserve your CO gold in the next 3 months, why not. You never know when you'll have to fly star alliance next year, and you could get the priority standby over someone else.
#3

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: BA Gold, JGC Sapphire, OZ Diamond, AF Silver, CX GR, Marriott Lifetime SL
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I think some people says that if you normally travel in J or F you should build against AA EXP ? that will be something inteseting for you to try as they give bonus points and if you build it long enough, you get lifetime gold ?
#4


Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 6,978
I achieved DM in the eight month of my membership year. I won't clock up enough revenue to make DM+. For the remaining four months of my membership year, is there any reason I should keep flying on CX, other than schedule convenience and possibility of upgrades? Or should I try to get Gold on Star Alliance instead?
Thanks in advance to all you FlyerTalk experts for your advice!
Thanks in advance to all you FlyerTalk experts for your advice!
If you are traveling in J or F, there's little incentive to keep flying CX simply because of op-up, J --> F op-up is rare. However, if you got to DM by flying mostly Y, then I would say sticking with CX might be worth it due to higher chance of op-up as DM.
Otherwise, definitely get *A Gold, it opens up that much more opportunity for you as you fly other airlines.
#5




Join Date: Oct 1999
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Programs: BA LTG, SQ TPPS, CX DMP, AA EXP, Bonvoy LTT, ALL PLT, Hilton DM
Posts: 4,037
Depends on the way you travel.
If you are traveling in J or F, there's little incentive to keep flying CX simply because of op-up, J --> F op-up is rare. However, if you got to DM by flying mostly Y, then I would say sticking with CX might be worth it due to higher chance of op-up as DM.
Otherwise, definitely get *A Gold, it opens up that much more opportunity for you as you fly other airlines.
If you are traveling in J or F, there's little incentive to keep flying CX simply because of op-up, J --> F op-up is rare. However, if you got to DM by flying mostly Y, then I would say sticking with CX might be worth it due to higher chance of op-up as DM.
Otherwise, definitely get *A Gold, it opens up that much more opportunity for you as you fly other airlines.
#6

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX DM
Posts: 1,144
Depends on the way you travel.
If you are traveling in J or F, there's little incentive to keep flying CX simply because of op-up, J --> F op-up is rare. However, if you got to DM by flying mostly Y, then I would say sticking with CX might be worth it due to higher chance of op-up as DM.
Otherwise, definitely get *A Gold, it opens up that much more opportunity for you as you fly other airlines.
If you are traveling in J or F, there's little incentive to keep flying CX simply because of op-up, J --> F op-up is rare. However, if you got to DM by flying mostly Y, then I would say sticking with CX might be worth it due to higher chance of op-up as DM.
Otherwise, definitely get *A Gold, it opens up that much more opportunity for you as you fly other airlines.
#7
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX DM, CO Gold
Posts: 13
Thanks, everyone. I guess there is no additional benefit in going over 120,000 miles during a membership year. So I will book enough *A flights to keep Gold and use CX otherwise.
#8


Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 8,245
Actually, J-F op-ups are one of the main reasons I'd argue to KEEP flying CX as a DM. My anecdotal experience seems to indicate that they happen more often on SFO and LAX flights. I have also received it flying to YYZ. (I have never once received a J-F op-up on HKG-JFK). But the possibility of them definitely keep me loyal to CX when I book J class tix. I have thought about this before, and I think if CX were to take away the op-up possibilities that would probably change my calculus and make me start booking more *A tix. But for the time being, with the rate of op-ups I'm hitting, I find it a great benefit.
When booked in J, there are two ways (instead of just one for EY) that you can get a J-F op-up. The first is if the J cabin is oversold. However, the second is if EY is overbooked by so much that surplus goes into J, where that surplus (aka, DMs originally booked in J) then gets bumped to F. On my SFO-HKG op-ups, this is almost ALWAYS how it happens. There are a few empty J seats, but Y is oversold by 10+, and then they push as many people from J-F as possible in order to make room for EY op-ups.
#9
Join Date: Mar 2001
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#10
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#11



Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: HK
Programs: CX DM / Bonvoy LTT
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CX should consider giving u/g vouchers to DMs that have already requalified. Number of vouchers might be connected to how fast one requalifies. My only incentive of flying CX is the possible op-up from J-F
#12


Join Date: Nov 2007
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....ditto. But I have to say, if you fly a lot of long-haul and book in J, it's a good incentive! I would have to imagine for someone flying Y it might even be MORE valuable to be DM, since hitting a J upgrade must be nice if you're stuck in EY for long-haul.
#13


Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 6,978
1) U/g vouchers
2) Bonus tier miles
#14
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX DM, CO Gold
Posts: 13
Many DM and GO would take their biz elsewhere when they requalified and realize they either don't have enough to move up (GO) or like the OP asks the question what's the point of sticking with CX (DM). There are many options CX can have to keep the DM/GO flying with them.
1) U/g vouchers
2) Bonus tier miles
1) U/g vouchers
2) Bonus tier miles
That said, miles to get elite status are not the determining factor all the time. CX does treat us nicely at the airport and on board, and I know if anything goes wrong CX will be more helpful. So I will still fly CX/KA on routes where the competition is bad, e.g. all mainland cities, Jakarta, Manila, Johannesburg, etc. And even for places with more choice, like Singapore, London and Tokyo, after a hard week on the road, I always feel like I'm already back home in Hong Kong and can relax the minute I step on board a CX aircraft. On other airlines, no matter how nice they are (objectively I do think SQ has better seats and food and excellent service too), I still feel like I am overseas. So sometimes it's worth it just to get home sooner as it were.
But I digress, and I certainly don't mean to sound like a CX advert. They are definitely losing a significant part of my business by not making the "extra" miles worth more.
Last edited by flyhighhk; Aug 26, 2010 at 4:56 am
#15


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That said, miles to get elite status are not the determining factor all the time. CX does treat us nicely at the airport and on board, and I know if anything goes wrong CX will be more helpful. So I will still fly CX/KA on routes where the competition is bad, e.g. all mainland cities, Jakarta, Manila, Johannesburg, etc. And even for places with more choice, like Singapore, London and Tokyo, after a hard week on the road, I always feel like I'm already back home in Hong Kong and can relax the minute I step on board a CX aircraft. On other airlines, no matter how nice they are (objectively I do think SQ has better seats and food and excellent service too), I still feel like I am overseas. So sometimes it's worth it just to get home sooner as it were.
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I agree with that. SQ does a few things I prefer (notably food, and offering a proper J between HKG and SIN on at least some flights), but there's a comfort factor with CX, that I don't get even if I fly J on SQ: F class check-in, F lounge, priority handling in case something goes wrong, if I want to change flight booking I have seat guarantee, extra nice when on board, etc. Though I don't think it's all specific to CX, as I used to feel the same way about SQ when I lived in SIN and was PPS with them...

