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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 9:28 pm
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JAL Influence

Just read the news from Bloomberg:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...EmUIv4tI&pos=2

Does anyone take JAL flights? I am just wondering how members on this board, CX and oneworld would get affected in the near future.
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:16 pm
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Quite a lot of threads about the issue, basically on every oneworld-related forum section (especially the JL and OW forums). CX is likely to benefit if this happens as AA will be forced to cooperate with CX by flying its own metal into HKG and further codeshares (if MU also does not join OW with CX being the only Asian member).
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 7:03 am
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As the presently only OW carrier, doing F on NRT-HKG, although not daily, it's a blow to all OW travellers, not only loosing F availability, but also the NRT JL F Lounge
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 3:24 pm
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Hopefully, another Japanese airline will join OW if JAL opts out. ANA would be a good catch.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 3:45 pm
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Hopefully, another Japanese airline will join OW if JAL opts out. ANA would be a good catch.
And ANA would be leaving what is becoming a pretty strong Star Alliance because...



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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 6:35 pm
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I'm based in the US and I use a combo of CX/JAL when traveling within Asia. Although I always prefer CX when flying to/from NRT/TPE/HKG, I will have no choice but to use CX and there will be fewer flights to choose from. I will also miss the first class JAL lounge. The real problem for me is being able to use NRT as a connecting point on JAL to other destinations in China such as PEK and PVG.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 8:02 pm
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Originally Posted by onobond
As the presently only OW carrier, doing F on NRT-HKG, although not daily, it's a blow to all OW travellers, not only loosing F availability, but also the NRT JL F Lounge
JAL has daily F NRT-HKG service on JL731/732.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 9:07 pm
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This leaves OW light in Asia IMHO.

Of all the unattached carriers out there in Asia I would vote for MH. I hope OW get busy and start signing some of these guys up - with or without F service.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 12:08 am
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Japan Airlines to file for bankruptcy protection

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8466997.stm

Choice quote: "JAL shares fell to an all-time low on Monday, valuing the firm at just $150m - roughly the price of a new jumbo jet."
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 12:28 am
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To be honest, as a HK-er it has virtually no impact for me for JL leaving, except I will lost my free domestic sector for my next award booking (I can replace it with ANA Visit Japan pass/ Japan Rail Pass) . The one having serious pain is AA / BA

I would be interested if CX will try grabbing CA to join OW consider their cross share holding and joint venture routes. I don't see much chance of CX jumping ship to *A though with the presence of SQ
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisLi
To be honest, as a HK-er it has virtually no impact for me for JL leaving, except I will lost my free domestic sector for my next award booking (I can replace it with ANA Visit Japan pass/ Japan Rail Pass) . The one having serious pain is AA / BA

I would be interested if CX will try grabbing CA to join OW consider their cross share holding and joint venture routes. I don't see much chance of CX jumping ship to *A though with the presence of SQ
Or you can use JAL Visit Japan pass, 26,000 yen plus tax for 2 domestic sectors.

It can also be the other way round. CA grabbing CX to join *A, SQ jumps to ST. And it will be the end of OW...
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 1:06 am
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Or you can use JAL Visit Japan pass, 26,000 yen plus tax for 2 domestic sectors.

It can also be the other way round. CA grabbing CX to join *A, SQ jumps to ST. And it will be the end of OW...
I would love it if CX would jump to *A. But that's just in my fantasyland.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 8:30 am
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I would love it if CX would jump to *A. But that's just in my fantasyland.
Oh, that is the least I would want to see. You will have to be GO to get in the lounge.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by JALPak
JAL has daily F NRT-HKG service on JL731/732.
As of this week you're right. Puzzling up a AONE4 recently, I found 5 out of 7 days availability in mid-January.

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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by onobond
As of this week you're right. Puzzling up a AONE4 recently, I found 5 out of 7 days availability in mid-January.

It has daily scheduled F service available on JL731/732 flights for years...zero availability for AONE4 doesn't mean it doesn't have F service
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