Careers Involving a lot of Travel
#16
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Business Development or sales for any company that exports...
..now as a recent grad I'd say the sales aspect is more realistic. The upside is you get to see the world...the downside is recent grads dont get to fly in J....so expect some pretty long boring cramped flights to get to where you are going. You can also take a foriegn posting (thats what i did) where you cover a certain portion of the world (mine was based out of HK and TPE) and thats a plus cuz you get a housing and transportation suplement. The if you get posted to places like the phillipines or indonesia you get really nice digs
(for safety) and you get staff...usually a housekeeper/cook and a driver. it helps if you have secondary language skills.
(for safety) and you get staff...usually a housekeeper/cook and a driver. it helps if you have secondary language skills.
#17
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Originally Posted by Kate_Canuck
You should be more precise in your question. The right question is: "Which kinds of careers involve travel that you will actually enjoy (at least sometimes)?" For example, I know people whose weekly routine involved "get up at 4 am on Monday, take 3 connecting cheap economy flights to nowhere, rent a car and drive to the back of nowhere, spend workweek and most evenings in a dirty factory counting widgets, stay in Motel 6, fly home on Friday, write report on weekend during free time and get up and do it again the next week".
He was an awesome boss despite that little lesson
#18
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Originally Posted by Kate_Canuck
You should be more precise in your question. The right question is: "Which kinds of careers involve travel that you will actually enjoy (at least sometimes)?" For example, I know people whose weekly routine involved "get up at 4 am on Monday, take 3 connecting cheap economy flights to nowhere, rent a car and drive to the back of nowhere, spend workweek and most evenings in a dirty factory counting widgets, stay in Motel 6, fly home on Friday, write report on weekend during free time and get up and do it again the next week".
#20
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Join the Army!
Pantywaists! The OP was looking for jobs with lots of travel, not travel AND comfort!
If he wants lots of travel to a wide variety of warm dryish places he should submit to a frontal lobotomy (already done, in my case) and join the Army. Of course, the beaches may well be mined, the hotel might consist of dozens of sandbagged tents behind a HESCO bastion and the locals armed and with murderous intent.
Your modes of travel won't earn you much in the way of AE points however.
Maybe that was what you really meant?
Seriously, I can't think of a better way to (1) pay off your student loans, (2) learn actual practial leadership skills (as opposed to 'management' skills) and (3) find out that most of the rest of the world doesn't live like us and the little bit of improvement that we (Canadians) are able to bring to their lives is deeply appreciated.
cheers, MWAC
If he wants lots of travel to a wide variety of warm dryish places he should submit to a frontal lobotomy (already done, in my case) and join the Army. Of course, the beaches may well be mined, the hotel might consist of dozens of sandbagged tents behind a HESCO bastion and the locals armed and with murderous intent.
Your modes of travel won't earn you much in the way of AE points however.
Maybe that was what you really meant?
Seriously, I can't think of a better way to (1) pay off your student loans, (2) learn actual practial leadership skills (as opposed to 'management' skills) and (3) find out that most of the rest of the world doesn't live like us and the little bit of improvement that we (Canadians) are able to bring to their lives is deeply appreciated.
cheers, MWAC
#21
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Originally Posted by miserablewithAC
If he wants lots of travel to a wide variety of warm dryish places and join the Army.
...been there, done that...even picked up a t-shirt or two on the journey... and then moved on to the Air Force.
What was that recruiting jingle ?...there is no life like it.
#22
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I imagine that the OP was thinking of the type of job where travel involved conferences, golfing and drinks at the hotel bar......like the Air Force!
cheers, MWAC
cheers, MWAC
#23
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Dear OP -- as my fellow posters have attested, there are many careers with a travel element... even for business grads. I had barely been on a plane by the time I left university. Ottawa and Boston were the furthest I had ever ventured from home in NB. Advance the clock a few years -- I have lived and worked in Asia and Europe, visited close to 50 countries and haven't tired of it yet. The experiences are varied and absolutely unimaginable until you experience it first hand. So how do you make it all happen...
Focus on something. Become an expert. Build a solid knowledge base as a foundation for other things. It could be in procurement, a new marketing technique, transfer pricing (for masochists only), Asian languages (Foreign Affairs is a good place for this), or an obscure technical field. Kate Canuck mentioned her early career -- I've seen this work for others.
For summer jobs, if finances are not a big concern, look for internships. Some don't pay well, and others don't pay at all, but they can be in interesting places.
Good luck! Bonne chance! Buona fortuna! Buena suerte!
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Focus on something. Become an expert. Build a solid knowledge base as a foundation for other things. It could be in procurement, a new marketing technique, transfer pricing (for masochists only), Asian languages (Foreign Affairs is a good place for this), or an obscure technical field. Kate Canuck mentioned her early career -- I've seen this work for others.
For summer jobs, if finances are not a big concern, look for internships. Some don't pay well, and others don't pay at all, but they can be in interesting places.
Good luck! Bonne chance! Buona fortuna! Buena suerte!
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#24
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Originally Posted by Seat13F_AC_CRJ
Focus on something. Become an expert. Build a solid knowledge base as a foundation for other things. It could be in procurement, a new marketing technique, transfer pricing (for masochists only), Asian languages (Foreign Affairs is a good place for this), or an obscure technical field. Kate Canuck mentioned her early career -- I've seen this work for others.
13F
But the main point is to focus hard on some field and gain all the knowledge you can. Then there will be many avenues open to you.
#25
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Army is Out
I'm not on student loans and am making major sacrifices to be able to go to school full time. As such, I definitely intend to get a job in the private sector. The problem is that my main source of potential jobs is through my university's career centre. This means either public practice accounting or oil & gas. Somebody save me!
Honestly though, are there not jobs out there where people would jump at the chance to land someone willing to travel, be paid little, who had experience and a solid education?
It doesn't feel like there is. Anyway, I'm off to an interview at a small accounting firm here in town.
How'd you all land your jobs?
KB
Honestly though, are there not jobs out there where people would jump at the chance to land someone willing to travel, be paid little, who had experience and a solid education?
It doesn't feel like there is. Anyway, I'm off to an interview at a small accounting firm here in town.
How'd you all land your jobs?
KB
#26
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Originally Posted by YYC-YYJ
How'd you all land your jobs?
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#27
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Originally Posted by YYC-YYJ
Honestly though, are there not jobs out there where people would jump at the chance to land someone willing to travel, be paid little, who had experience and a solid education?
#28
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I don't know that it's so easy to get a job with lots of foreign travel upfront. I do agree that if you specialize, you're more likely to travel sooner rather than later. People don't usually hire generalists and give them the glamorous life....hah hah
Some government departments do have a travel mandate, and do hire grads, but then you have to work for the government, and that's probably not for everyone. You could work for an international NGO, they won't pay much and some would probably appreciate some harder skills, but stay away from those that think you have to have lived in the trenches or gone to church to be hired.
I think the idea of an internship is also good. If you have the luxury of working for close to nothing. You never know where those will take you.
My own experience has been more luck than planning. Right place, right time, right set of skills.
Lorna
Some government departments do have a travel mandate, and do hire grads, but then you have to work for the government, and that's probably not for everyone. You could work for an international NGO, they won't pay much and some would probably appreciate some harder skills, but stay away from those that think you have to have lived in the trenches or gone to church to be hired.
I think the idea of an internship is also good. If you have the luxury of working for close to nothing. You never know where those will take you.
My own experience has been more luck than planning. Right place, right time, right set of skills.
Lorna
#29
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Originally Posted by YYC-YYJ
As such, I definitely intend to get a job in the private sector.
The problem these days (and I am admittedly a contributor to this problem, but most young people are, I think), fresh uni grads believe in instant gratification. In other words, we think we should be put in good positions making good money immediately out of uni because we are well educated (and it's even worse with those with graduate degrees, such as myself).
Unfortunately, the world doesn't work that way. Most B.Com students are told that they will come out and manage. This is BS. Most are told that they will come out and make good money. Again, BS. It's not impossible, but not very likely.
So, I guess what I am saying is that you shouldn't close your doors to other areas. There are very interesting jobs in all sectors that involve good travel and different pay scales. (Look at AC for example, if you're a FA starting off, you don't get a very good salary -- UA is only offering somewhere around 20k USD a year!!!)
Originally Posted by YYC-YYJ
The problem is that my main source of potential jobs is through my university's career centre. This means either public practice accounting or oil & gas. Somebody save me!
Originally Posted by YYC-YYJ
Honestly though, are there not jobs out there where people would jump at the chance to land someone willing to travel, be paid little, who had experience and a solid education?
Originally Posted by YYC-YYJ
It doesn't feel like there is. Anyway, I'm off to an interview at a small accounting firm here in town.
Originally Posted by YYC-YYJ
How'd you all land your jobs?
Word advice: Good things come to good people who are willing to wait.
I believe in that as I am about to start my dream job at the beginning of December.
#30
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Originally Posted by After Burner
From my perspective, as an employer, the answer is yes. If such people exist, I sure can't find them. Employees who have experience usually want to avoid travel. Only the inexperienced seem to want travel. And the inexperienced aren't the ones I'd want to send on out-of-town missions. Catch-22.
And if they like to travel, they still nonetheless usually take all the good destinations and leave the less desired for the more junior staff.