My read of “sleeping” is conjugal visit.

If you are in the Seattle area, try Bartell for testing.

https://www.bartelldrugs.com/covid19...kaAgEIEALw_wcB

So in other words, ignoring the quarantine requirements. I can’t see how that is isolating from other members of the household.

You are fully allowed to be with members of your household who are not vulnerable or over 65 or work in a group home. This is exactly what the ArriveCan app asks. I have done 10 quarantines so far. The public health people who come to the house always wave to my kids when I show them my ID through the window. Everyone without symptoms quarantines at home. Never once have I ever been asked to pay for a hotel instead of going home as I always cross by land. I also play in the backyard with my kids but I never leave the property.

Thanks for the tip. Does it actually take 2-7 days for results in your experience or is it faster?

I wasn't able to answer the door, because as I said, I was "sleeping" and so I missed the knock.

I am by no means suggesting these measures are completely pointless, not based in science, and should be completely ignored by anyone fully vaccinated and thoroughly tested. I am simply pointing out that if others should happen to miss a knock at their door because they are also "sleeping", there are likely no consequences to this, so they can "sleep" more comfortably with that knowledge.

Folks, please, this thread isn't about "sleeping" or quarantines once in Canada, it's about flying to an American airport, then driving across the border into Canada so let's please try and refocus the discussion to the "thread topic".

tcook052
Canada forum moderator

Even the rich seem to do this.
This was Friday.
I've seen a few others in the past month.
A Canadian registered business jet flies from the southern states into BLI.
Presumably to drop off pax.
Crew brings empty plane to YVR.

I did this last weekend successfully, without the flying part -- just driving from my home in NY to visit my family in ON for 2 days.

• Arrived at Peace Bridge just after midnight; only one car ahead of me.
• Rapid PCR test was accepted with no issues, done same-day before crossing the border.
• Questions from border officer: last time entered Canada? Where do you live? What's your immigration status in the US? Where will you be quarantining, and do you have adequate separation from others in the household?
• I had checked the box in ArriveCAN indicating there is a vulnerable person (65+) in my household so I was asked about that. Reiterated that I have separation from the person (separate bedroom + bathroom) and also a signed consent letter (just in case, which I mentioned I have but did not need to show).
• Was given two of the Switch Health tests. The testing station at the border was already closed (was told they stop working at 10:45pm) so I had to do it myself at home. Note the online proctors are only available from 6am-7pm; since I first tried to do it in the evening after 7pm on my day of arrival, I ended up having to delay until the following morning (technically >24 hours after arrival).
• I'm already back in the US, but keep getting phone calls from Canadian Govt with an automated quarantine compliance questionnaire...
  • On the most recent call, I got a "your answer indicates non-compliance, ..." after being asked whether I took the Day 8 test. Not sure what the consequences of this will be! I haven't found a way to speak to a human and ask to be taken off their call list...

I have already done this 10x since covid started including 6x since the covid test requirements came in. I get calls right through day 21 but there is zero penalty for not taking the day 8 test if you have already left Canada. They keep calling me past day 14 because I never took the day 8 test.

Update in case this helps anyone flying to SEA. It seems that the appointments for 3 days later are loaded around 8/9 pm PST (11/12 EST).
I was able to book the ID NOW test. The results were emailed about an hour after the test.
I did a one way rental to BLI and Uber to the border. Please note, that as of last month, Uber and Lyft no longer pickup at BLI so I had to walk a bit to an offsite location.

I drove across from WA to BC at 6pm Jul8 at Douglas. I am not Canadian, I am not PR, not essential. I am traveling on US pass + currently eligible to enter, and my vaccine was done in Europe.

I started my day in BC, crossed into the US early afternoon, and came back that evening. Entering the US was quiet, two lanes open including one nexus, 3 cars waiting in the regular lane. The US guy just asked where I lived and how much cash I was carrying, so I told him I was running errands.

However, coming back into BC, it's much busier than last month - 4 lanes open (no nexus) and with 3 or 4 cars per lane, and each car was taking minutes. There were only 3 lanes at first, and they opened another and some quick people jumped in the new line. I think it took me 25 minutes of waiting to see the officer.
I'd flashed my nexus card as I drove up to the booth, which he said pulled up the infos - I handed him my passport, visa, and copy of test from Bellingham Walgreens, and nothing else. He did not want the arrivecan printout, nor the vaccine documentation. He said arrivecan was pulled up on his computer automatically, and it contained the vaccine documentation already. He asked about my trip (I'd only been gone for a few hours to run errands), asked where I lived (so I told him, and said that was my quarantine plan), then handed me the test kit. That's all, very fast, a couple minutes at most. I did remark to him that it seemed quite busy and he agreed a lot more people were using the relaxation of the rules as an opportunity to travel.

The testing took a lot of time. The redcross tent has 4 car slots, but they made people wait and do the registration beforehand. Before I entered this queue, they gave me the box and said I could do it at home, or in person, so I asked how long it would take in person, and they said 30 or 40 minutes. I said I'd do it there. There were 2 cars ahead of me. In BC we are now using Lifelabs, so you have to register anew. I think if you didn't have data, or you don't have a smartphone, they must have some other provision.

The registration is very long winded, there are several screens, and you also have to enter all your data, name, address, passport, travel date, etc - and there does not appear to be a way of registering an account ahead of time - the registration is for that specific test since you have to enter an ID# from the actual test box at some point. There is also a piece of paper which you have to fill out with various identification details. The system then generates an order ID which you have to note on the form.

The first time I tried, with the person guiding me, I lost connection after I'd filled in nearly all the form, and then tried to refresh the page, but that wiped out all the data I'd entered, so I had to painstakingly re-enter everything. So the admin side of registering the kit took the longest time, maybe 20 minutes. The actual test was quick, a few minutes at most. I did not do a cheek swab, only a nasal one (there's some mention of cheek swab on the flyclear/lifelabs website). I think their estimate of half an hour for the testing was fairly accurate - not sure what will happen when it becomes even busier.

But the (vaccine documentation) = (no quarantine) side of things seem to be very smooth. No hassle.

Thank you so much for the detailed report! Did you pre-book your test at Walgreen's? Which one did you take? How long did it take for results to come back?

Confirming requirements for return to Canada
 

I will be traveling by car into the US early next Tuesday, returning to Canada late Thursday. I am fully vaccinated (Pfizer) in Ontario. As I understand it, current requirements for my return (to avoid quarantine requirements) are the following: (a) register my arrival in ArriveCAN max 72 hours prior to my return, (b) evidence of negative PCR test within 72 hours of my return, and (c) my vaccination certificate received after my second shot.

I am not clear on whether there are any requirements for me to repeat a PCR test in Canada, assuming that I don't end up having to quarantine.

Did I get that right? Thanks in advance...

You need evidence of both vaccines and to avoid quarantine the second vaccine must have been at least 14 days earlier. And you also need to take a covid test upon entry into Canada. You can do it at the border or take it with you to complete within 24 hours. If you take the covid test in Canada Monday night you can avoid having to do one in the US as long as it is within 72 hours of your arrival at the border and not a minute earlier.