OT: [Old News] US Airways plane down in Hudson River, NY
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The plane landed with the tail slightly lower than the nose, as is correct in a ditching. This meant that much of the cabin remained above water. Because of this, the rear exit doors were not used in the evacuation (as is procedure), allowing people time to exit via the over-wing emergency exits and front doors before water seeped in through any vents or damaged rear/baggage door seals.
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The Safety System requires acknowledgement
Picking up some vibes here that majority of posters believe the Captain to be the Hero. Whilst he may well be a hero, safe operation of aircraft is based on a lot more than one person and thought it worthwhile to put things back into perspective.
Firstly on board for there to be a safe ditching in the emergency they encountered there was a first officer performing a supporting role which we may never hear about. Then to get everyone out safely there were the trained cabin crew.
To take it a stage further US airways operations and maintenance deserve some recognition for their role and likewise Airbus for designing and manufacturing such an excellent aircraft in the first place.
With all these things and more in place we declare captains as heroes when it comes off and blame him when it doesn't.
So whilst it seems, at this very early stage, the capt deserves praise he is not the only one.
just a thought
regards
Aero_Safety
Firstly on board for there to be a safe ditching in the emergency they encountered there was a first officer performing a supporting role which we may never hear about. Then to get everyone out safely there were the trained cabin crew.
To take it a stage further US airways operations and maintenance deserve some recognition for their role and likewise Airbus for designing and manufacturing such an excellent aircraft in the first place.
With all these things and more in place we declare captains as heroes when it comes off and blame him when it doesn't.
So whilst it seems, at this very early stage, the capt deserves praise he is not the only one.
just a thought
regards
Aero_Safety
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Although the captain is getting all the praise, a number of sites in the US are also acknowledging how much the First Officer and cabin crew did. ^
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A320 and friend
Finally found a connection to bring the 'US Airways down in Hudson River, NY' thread on topic.
Take a look in the background of this image as the river ferries head to start rescuing passengers:
http://designlayers.cloudapp.net/Det...e4191cc&Page=0
Take a look in the background of this image as the river ferries head to start rescuing passengers:
http://designlayers.cloudapp.net/Det...e4191cc&Page=0
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Having now seen the photos of the aircraft removed from the river it should be emphasised that those who designed and built the A320 deserve thorough congratulations for building such a robust aeroplane.
Both this accident and the BA38 at LHR demonstrate the engineering standards of both Seattle and Tolouse which, as passengers, we should be extremely grateful for.
Both this accident and the BA38 at LHR demonstrate the engineering standards of both Seattle and Tolouse which, as passengers, we should be extremely grateful for.
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As I indicated, I did expect the possibility of engine detachment and one did come off. Nothing to worry about, all as planned. It has been located.
Mind you, I did see some pictures where I suspect the rear left door was open at some point. Anybody confirm this with footage they have seen? I am a bit out of the loop on it as I have had other stuff to deal with.
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#101
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Your plane crashes
It's OK. The odds are you'll live. At least, according to this:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...ane-crash-myth
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...ane-crash-myth
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Re the black boxes, I found this on howstuffworks.com:
"In the United States, when investigators locate a black box it is transported to the computer labs at the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). Special care is taken in transporting these devices in order to avoid any (further) damage to the recording medium. In cases of water accidents, recorders are placed in a cooler of water to keep them from drying out."What they are trying to do is preserve the state of the recorder until they have it in a location where it can all be properly handled," Doran said. "By keeping the recorder in a bucket of water, usually it's a cooler, what they are doing is just keeping it in the same environment from which it was retrieved until it gets to a place where it can be adequately disassembled."
I too thought they were waterproof and airtight but maybe its a precaution in case there is unseen damage of the casing - presumably they wouldnt know if water had got in or not until it was taken apart.
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As a member of BA S/H Crew, who flies on the A320, having watched this from when it first came up as a News Flash, I can only say how immensely proud I am of our US Airways colleagues for again demonstrating that we are not just glorified waiters/waitresses...
Although I have been off recently, and not flown since this, it does make me wonder if pax will pay more attention for a few weeks to the safety demo video as they did after the BA038 happened... Only to forget it after about 3 weeks and return to their complimentary copy of The Times...
Although I have been off recently, and not flown since this, it does make me wonder if pax will pay more attention for a few weeks to the safety demo video as they did after the BA038 happened... Only to forget it after about 3 weeks and return to their complimentary copy of The Times...
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Although this doesn't say what kind of birds. Intial reports said geese. But when you think about it, it was clearly Cheney's last chance to blame everything on cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
After all, it wasn't any old kind of goose now, was it? It was a particular nationality of goose.
And what language do you think those geese spoke?