GB AIRWAYS: love or loathe?
#31
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Actually you have to put me in the love GB class. Heaven for me would be for GB to take over most short haul BA flights and let the excellent Eurofleet crew do Long Haul full time as opposed to mixing as they will from October
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
Heaven for me would be for GB to take over most short haul BA flights
I shudder to think at the amount of commercial policies that would have to be issued if they took over shorthaul! Without any degree of hyperbole, bookings would simply become unserviceable.
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Originally Posted by Smirnoff
BMed = ^ ^ ^
- No bassinets!
- No ticketing facilities at their airports, but pax have to schlep off to the town office for revalidations/reissues! Please get a move on in bringing e-tix to Amman (especially), Tashkent, Damascus etc!
- No flat bed in Club!
- Inconvenient stop overs in Alexandria, Yerevan, Ekaterinburg etc!
But on the whole, I like BMED. Fairly solid and reliable. And their destinations are more my style of tourism. You can keep your BGI, MRU, CPT etc. Far too boring and mainstream. Wandering around countires like Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and Ethiopia is much more rewarding.
#35
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Originally Posted by Bukhara
Oh no.....don't get me started on BMED too!
- No bassinets!
- No bassinets!
Originally Posted by Bukhara
- No ticketing facilities at their airports, but pax have to schlep off to the town office for revalidations/reissues! Please get a move on in bringing e-tix to Amman (especially), Tashkent, Damascus etc!
Originally Posted by Bukhara
- No flat bed in Club!
BMed's seat to BEY (2153 miles) is 100 times better than BA's to LCA ( a mere stones throw away at 2028 miles).
Originally Posted by Bukhara
But on the whole, I like BMED. Fairly solid and reliable.
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Originally Posted by Smirnoff
And let me see. BA do e-tix to places like LUX ?
#37
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Originally Posted by Smirnoff
Exactly. I think they are great.
Even funnier when you cross-reference their destination list with the BA destination guide and virtually all of them start with "The Foreign and Commonwealth Office advises against all non-essential travel to XXX"
Plus they do things with an A320 that not even Airbus dreamed of - i.e: won an award for flying them as far as possible!
#38
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
Actually you have to put me in the love GB class. Heaven for me would be for GB to take over most short haul BA flights and let the excellent Eurofleet crew do Long Haul full time as opposed to mixing as they will from October
Last edited by smashmouth; Mar 4, 2006 at 5:20 pm
#39
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Originally Posted by Bukhara
The difference is that BA have a ticket desk at the airport. BMED have nothing. Particularly frustrating as the town offices keep normal business hours. Amman receives most complaints as there is a large number of people who arrive from Iraq and anticipate getting their ticket re-issued in the airport. Instead, they have to make their way into the city and do everything there. This can add a day on to a weary oil worker's transit. This is my only grumble about BMED. Otherwise, a decent company.
But, to be fair, similar problems can be encountered with BA. You cannot buy a BA ticket or have a BA ticket changed at HEL, because they have shut their ticket office at the airport, claiming AY do everything for them. Well AY can't or won't. So you would have to go into town there too.
#40
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I love GB for two reasons:
1. I don't think Gatwick would have had any future for British Airways after 09/11 if GB Airways hadn't kept us going!!! Rod Eddington (allegedly) was prepared to pull everything BA away from Gatwick until GB's directors pointed out that an important part of the Franchise Agreement was to provide connecting services to BA mainline at Gatwick!!!
So, my job, and a few hundred others at BA LGW were saved by "Gibraltar Airways"!!! ^
2. The services standards, catering, cabin cleanliness etc are without fault - a bloody professional outfit!!! ^
Now, to the negatives and to fight GB's corner:
1. "Route Changes For Commercial Reasons" - Michael Caine Department ("Not A Lot Of People Know That!) - The "Long Tom" Airbusses within the GB Fleet (180 seaters) have been found sadly lacking in the range they can fly with a full load!!! The extent of this problem was not forseen early enough and has curtailed GB's ambitious plans for North Africa and Cyprus in particular! For this reason, GB have been presented with an absolute operational planning nightmare because the Summer 2006 schedule was already planned before this situation came to light!!!
2. GB have a very modern aircraft fleet - all Airbusses. Unfortunately, these have been dogged by all manner of technical teething troubles since their introduction and GB does not have spare aircraft kicking around the hangars with no work to do!!! Consequently, if an aircraft goes "missing" for a few days for the men with spanners to fix something, delays throughout the GB schedule ensue!
I hope this helps you to understand GB!!! I know how disappointing and frustrating schedule changes are, but they're not done for devilment!!!
Good On Yer, little GB friend!!! (Can I have my second helping of Chocolate Sponge Cake Now Please???)
1. I don't think Gatwick would have had any future for British Airways after 09/11 if GB Airways hadn't kept us going!!! Rod Eddington (allegedly) was prepared to pull everything BA away from Gatwick until GB's directors pointed out that an important part of the Franchise Agreement was to provide connecting services to BA mainline at Gatwick!!!
So, my job, and a few hundred others at BA LGW were saved by "Gibraltar Airways"!!! ^
2. The services standards, catering, cabin cleanliness etc are without fault - a bloody professional outfit!!! ^
Now, to the negatives and to fight GB's corner:
1. "Route Changes For Commercial Reasons" - Michael Caine Department ("Not A Lot Of People Know That!) - The "Long Tom" Airbusses within the GB Fleet (180 seaters) have been found sadly lacking in the range they can fly with a full load!!! The extent of this problem was not forseen early enough and has curtailed GB's ambitious plans for North Africa and Cyprus in particular! For this reason, GB have been presented with an absolute operational planning nightmare because the Summer 2006 schedule was already planned before this situation came to light!!!
2. GB have a very modern aircraft fleet - all Airbusses. Unfortunately, these have been dogged by all manner of technical teething troubles since their introduction and GB does not have spare aircraft kicking around the hangars with no work to do!!! Consequently, if an aircraft goes "missing" for a few days for the men with spanners to fix something, delays throughout the GB schedule ensue!
I hope this helps you to understand GB!!! I know how disappointing and frustrating schedule changes are, but they're not done for devilment!!!
Good On Yer, little GB friend!!! (Can I have my second helping of Chocolate Sponge Cake Now Please???)
#41
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Originally Posted by smashmouth
I doubt it hugely that BA will sever ties with GT, but I find it disappointing that they treat their passengers with such disregard… worse, when BA raise the issue with them, they release an internal memo emphasising their contractual rights to change schedules… and of course how generous they are being by allowing passengers a full refund in order to book elsewhere (too bad if on the doorstep of summer, the other airlines are either full or the new flights cost astronomically more than the original GB flight).
But, hey… at least the onboard stuff is all good – that should be the main emphasis… although, as many of our summer 2006 passengers are now doing, given the choice, I’d take the Easy option rather than risk the GB lottery.
But, hey… at least the onboard stuff is all good – that should be the main emphasis… although, as many of our summer 2006 passengers are now doing, given the choice, I’d take the Easy option rather than risk the GB lottery.
#42
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Originally Posted by bealine
I love GB for two reasons:
1. I don't think Gatwick would have had any future for British Airways after 09/11 if GB Airways hadn't kept us going!!! Rod Eddington (allegedly) was prepared to pull everything BA away from Gatwick until GB's directors pointed out that an important part of the Franchise Agreement was to provide connecting services to BA mainline at Gatwick!!!
So, my job, and a few hundred others at BA LGW were saved by "Gibraltar Airways"!!! ^
2. The services standards, catering, cabin cleanliness etc are without fault - a bloody professional outfit!!! ^
Now, to the negatives and to fight GB's corner:
1. "Route Changes For Commercial Reasons" - Michael Caine Department ("Not A Lot Of People Know That!) - The "Long Tom" Airbusses within the GB Fleet (180 seaters) have been found sadly lacking in the range they can fly with a full load!!! The extent of this problem was not forseen early enough and has curtailed GB's ambitious plans for North Africa and Cyprus in particular! For this reason, GB have been presented with an absolute operational planning nightmare because the Summer 2006 schedule was already planned before this situation came to light!!!
2. GB have a very modern aircraft fleet - all Airbusses. Unfortunately, these have been dogged by all manner of technical teething troubles since their introduction and GB does not have spare aircraft kicking around the hangars with no work to do!!! Consequently, if an aircraft goes "missing" for a few days for the men with spanners to fix something, delays throughout the GB schedule ensue!
I hope this helps you to understand GB!!! I know how disappointing and frustrating schedule changes are, but they're not done for devilment!!!
Good On Yer, little GB friend!!! (Can I have my second helping of Chocolate Sponge Cake Now Please???)
1. I don't think Gatwick would have had any future for British Airways after 09/11 if GB Airways hadn't kept us going!!! Rod Eddington (allegedly) was prepared to pull everything BA away from Gatwick until GB's directors pointed out that an important part of the Franchise Agreement was to provide connecting services to BA mainline at Gatwick!!!
So, my job, and a few hundred others at BA LGW were saved by "Gibraltar Airways"!!! ^
2. The services standards, catering, cabin cleanliness etc are without fault - a bloody professional outfit!!! ^
Now, to the negatives and to fight GB's corner:
1. "Route Changes For Commercial Reasons" - Michael Caine Department ("Not A Lot Of People Know That!) - The "Long Tom" Airbusses within the GB Fleet (180 seaters) have been found sadly lacking in the range they can fly with a full load!!! The extent of this problem was not forseen early enough and has curtailed GB's ambitious plans for North Africa and Cyprus in particular! For this reason, GB have been presented with an absolute operational planning nightmare because the Summer 2006 schedule was already planned before this situation came to light!!!
2. GB have a very modern aircraft fleet - all Airbusses. Unfortunately, these have been dogged by all manner of technical teething troubles since their introduction and GB does not have spare aircraft kicking around the hangars with no work to do!!! Consequently, if an aircraft goes "missing" for a few days for the men with spanners to fix something, delays throughout the GB schedule ensue!
I hope this helps you to understand GB!!! I know how disappointing and frustrating schedule changes are, but they're not done for devilment!!!
Good On Yer, little GB friend!!! (Can I have my second helping of Chocolate Sponge Cake Now Please???)
Forgive me if I don't give one hoot let alone two for what happens in scheduling. As an outfit GB are superb. ^ . That does not mean that they without fault. Still they are running routes that mainline jacked in years ago.
Smashmouth - I have not thought clearly for years. Would I be coming to play on Flyertalk if I did?
#43
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
...it must have been hell working inside GT during this period too
#44
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Originally Posted by Bukhara
But on the whole, I like BMED. Fairly solid and reliable. And their destinations are more my style of tourism. You can keep your BGI, MRU, CPT etc. Far too boring and mainstream. Wandering around countires like Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and Ethiopia is much more rewarding.
After a roundtrip on GB this week the difference in onboard service from mainline was palpable. The missus even commented - without prompting. Imagine a world with no Monopole, drinkable red wine and interesting food served by a crew who clearly do give a monkies. The 1am arrival was pretty cruddy though.
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter
After a roundtrip on GB this week the difference in onboard service from mainline was palpable. The missus even commented - without prompting. Imagine a world with no Monopole, drinkable red wine and interesting food served by a crew who clearly do give a monkies. The 1am arrival was pretty cruddy though.