The GGL Survey - May 2024
#76
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,388
I told them clearly
group 0 is a farce - I rather they escort me last and reserve my space on board for carry on
ggl checkin desks are a vanity with no purpose
sustainability won’t affect any of my choices
ggl isn’t recognised outside of BA which is a shame
fhe one and only great thing is the Manchester team and I wish they make them 24/7 again
HON is far superior to GGL as I get end to end travel experience and pretty consistent car transfers at all LH OS LX hubs
group 0 is a farce - I rather they escort me last and reserve my space on board for carry on
ggl checkin desks are a vanity with no purpose
sustainability won’t affect any of my choices
ggl isn’t recognised outside of BA which is a shame
fhe one and only great thing is the Manchester team and I wish they make them 24/7 again
HON is far superior to GGL as I get end to end travel experience and pretty consistent car transfers at all LH OS LX hubs
And why would another airline recognise another’s top tier customers? There seems to be some odd obsession with being recognised alongside CK members and I’m afraid I just don’t get why.
#77
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,183
Oh, I forgot: I also told BA to consider also non UK/US members when it comes to promos and offers.
#79
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,320
#80
Ambassador: Oneworld Alliance
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: LON
Programs: BA Gold (GGL), Hilton Diamond, AA Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,221
That’s great - pull up the ladder for us semi-retired punters who have found the double TPs a viable way to maintain GGL. . We did the hard yards (with a bit of Euro-cheating) way back, but now you are occupying our seats on the terrace! (Please don’t be “triggered” by my “micro-aggression”, or whatever the current term is”.
#81
Join Date: Oct 2014
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 837
#82
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: BAEC GGL/CR; Hilton Diamond; Mucci des Puccis
Posts: 5,701
CK members routinely pay in the $100k with comparable or greater CC spend (all the tickets and additional general spend will be on the card) and up region and actively seek expensive tickets rather than cheap ones. Meanwhile you can feasibly get GGL for £15k and maintain it for £10k. Any idea that the two things are remotely comparable is a bit silly really.
Even if/when BAEC goes revenue based, the thresholds are likely to be lower than that. There will be many BAEC members paying in the £100k and up for travel, they would be valuable on any earning basis, but the hobby GGLs won't be a great loss to BA.
And revenue isn't profit but on high margin products it's a good proxy. Remember the new paradigm with loyalty is not so much about flying but about identifying an affluent segment of customers and raiding their wallets for all sorts of things with the carrot being a currency owned by the loyalty scheme which can be revalued at an instant.
Even if/when BAEC goes revenue based, the thresholds are likely to be lower than that. There will be many BAEC members paying in the £100k and up for travel, they would be valuable on any earning basis, but the hobby GGLs won't be a great loss to BA.
And revenue isn't profit but on high margin products it's a good proxy. Remember the new paradigm with loyalty is not so much about flying but about identifying an affluent segment of customers and raiding their wallets for all sorts of things with the carrot being a currency owned by the loyalty scheme which can be revalued at an instant.
#83
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: BAEC GGL/CR; Hilton Diamond; Mucci des Puccis
Posts: 5,701
#84
Join Date: Oct 2014
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 837
Underwhelming survey.
Felt like I just moaned about Group 0 and IRROPS handling by the GGL Indian team.
I skipped Chelsea and instead praised CCR but asked them to go check out their competitor’s F dining menus..
Felt like I just moaned about Group 0 and IRROPS handling by the GGL Indian team.
I skipped Chelsea and instead praised CCR but asked them to go check out their competitor’s F dining menus..
#85
Join Date: Oct 2014
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 837
P.s. I’m sure that I read on here that the population is reportedly dwindling.
#86
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,026
I'm not GGL, but I do think the name is confusing for those not in the know. That's certainly evident at Gates when pre-boarding is announced. I still see Golds and Silvers scratching their heads asking each other what the announcement about Group 0/GGL was all about. Do GGLs like the name/brand or would they prefer another name and if so, what? It needs to make sense to others and a suitably grand title might help hit home to ground staff that you deserve special attention. How about BA Elite?
#87
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: BA GGL & GfL, AA LTP, Marriott (sigh) Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, Accor Gold, Avis Preferred
Posts: 3,271
i never thought much about the name GGL, always felt it was fine but never cared...until group 0 and see first hand that people naturally think they are being called as soon as they hear the word GOLD...
no one would be confused if they anounced prems, for example, so just removing the word "GOLD" from GGL would be something. i mean even the GGL phone line begins by saying "Thank you for calling the GUEST LIST priority assistance line..." (yes i just rang to confirm 😂
no one would be confused if they anounced prems, for example, so just removing the word "GOLD" from GGL would be something. i mean even the GGL phone line begins by saying "Thank you for calling the GUEST LIST priority assistance line..." (yes i just rang to confirm 😂
#88
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,320
I pointed out someone just needs to walk over to T4 and copy QR’s Premium Lounge for business passengers and it would be an improvement. Also that BA should just automatically award some Avios for flights where catering is missing rather than forcing me to constanlty complain that the advertised service is not being provided.
#89
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: UK
Programs: BA GGL, BA Amex Prem, Amex Plat, Hilton Diamond, Sir Crazy8534 de l'ordres des aides de Pucci
Posts: 4,529
But leisure bookings apparently dropping off a cliff at the moment, hence some good deals on other airlines and recently released avios availability to holiday destinations. I guess interest rate rises and anticipated longer interval to cuts are influencing real world behaviour. Could see the return of some good Xmas sales again depending how things go.
#90
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,320
But leisure bookings apparently dropping off a cliff at the moment, hence some good deals on other airlines and recently released avios availability to holiday destinations. I guess interest rate rises and anticipated longer interval to cuts are influencing real world behaviour. Could see the return of some good Xmas sales again depending how things go.
In the hotel world, many luxury hotels are taking the approach of ‘we’d rather have a half empty hotel at £1K per night average rate and employ fewer staff than a full one at £600 per night’. That clearly doesn’t work for airlines.
Last edited by lost_in_translation; May 3, 2024 at 2:20 am